Suggestion on Capship changes

[Boss]

Warp? In'trusting. What mod was that?

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Just go play the game and have fun dammit.

all in all the conclusion is that disco doesn't need antagonist factions, it doesn't need phantoms, it doesn't need nomads, it doesn't need coalition and it doesn't need many other things, no AIs, the game is hijacked by morons to confuse the game with their dickwaving generic competition games mixed up with troll-of-the-day.

[AdamantineFist]

Another mod I loved replaced the engine kill key on the Battleships with Warp.

What might this do to speedmod detection, though? Might mess that up.

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[Ghostrdr13]

True Fist, Most likely it would.

Boss, the mod I am referring to was the one I hosted for a time. It was called KhaosPrime by the Great Evil MSensei perhaps the oldest Freelancer Mod ever. First Mod release was March 20th 2003. Older then even Frostworks I think.

It was a wild and wooly time. People was trying things back then that they didnt know they wasent supposed to be able to do. There was no master modders back then to say it couldnt be done so everything was tried.

Many things where done in that mod I have never seen since. Like a diagonal trade lane. Can you imagine docking with a tradelane and suddenly almost going sideways? lmao Or taking a tradelane through a sun? but Im waxing nostalgic and going way off topic........ahh memories.........

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Second in Command of Asylum51

Great Spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds
Falsehood is invariably the child of fear in one form or another

[AdamantineFist]

... Or taking a tradelane through a sun? ...

Woah! Would this kill you, or do you just pass right through, unharmed? :crazy:

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[Ghostrdr13]

You would pass through unharmed unless you bailed out in the middle of the sun....then BOOM!!

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Second in Command of Asylum51

Great Spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds
Falsehood is invariably the child of fear in one form or another

[Sand-Viper]

heheh, that would be funny.. wait, wouldn't you just ram the sun and bounce out of the trade lane? ( rammed the sun once in open SP with a Juggernaut, it's weird, suns are solid..)

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[Ghostrdr13]

Nope, you just passed right through it. Its like passing through NPC ships, rocks or debris in a tradelane. Im sure you all have done that many times. same thing.

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Second in Command of Asylum51

Great Spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds
Falsehood is invariably the child of fear in one form or another

[AdamantineFist]

Nope, you just passed right through it. Its like passing through NPC ships, rocks or debris in a tradelane. Im sure you all have done that many times. same thing.

Wait a minute. I have an Idea. What is there was a sun that had no corona, and a tradelane that dropped you inside it. Then you could put stuff inside it. Makes absolutely no sense, but would be kind've funny.

Oh, and by the way, do coronas kill people instantly? Because I swear I've entered one and just started taking hull damage... I think I even bounced off the surface of one once.

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[Unseelie]

Suns do damage over time.
There is an instant kill wall, which you die when you hit, though. Planets have these too.

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[sovereign]

Suns do damage over time.
There is an instant kill wall, which you die when you hit, though. Planets have these too.

How'd I bounce off a planet in me trusty patriot then? Du-wha???
And yes, I got screens for that. Did it like 20 times.

ANYWAY, back to the subject of capship changes, I believe the anti-shield mines thread got to this... hold on, retrieving my rant...


EDIT: Here we are.

Capships need to be reworked, that's for sure- but harder to kill isn't necessarily the answer. Whatever we do, they need to be easy to kill by dedicated bombers, but take enough time to die so that fighter escorts will help. That way, a lone cap is useless, but serves its purpose as uber-tank in fleet engagements.

Trader shields also need some work- when I can get killed by a TRANSPORT in my high-class military hardware (bomber) because I start typing RP, something is wrong. Transports are always escorted in SP and by the NPCs, we should try to make this necessary- make it good enough to ignore low-end NPCs, but that's it. When I can fly through the Wild Guard system in my Firefly and come out unscathed, something is very wrong. When I can bounce off a Neutron star, have a decent chat with all the TAZ and CR online WHILE CAMPING AT 1m AWAY FROM THE NEUTRON STAR and have only 50k repair costs, something is very wrong. Tradeships are seriously insane- cargo space is fine, but the survivability is ridiculous. The broken hitbox on the train doesn't help either. I can (try to) pirate people, or I can fight. One or the other. >.<

Methinks anti-shield mines should not just come in the uber variety- give LFs and smuggling ships access to low level ones, but reserve the nasties for bombers/VHFs. Make it really a bomber, not so much a torpedo bomber.

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