Pirating with cruisers nearby

[Robert.Fitzgerald]

A cruiser or above cannot be anywhere near a pirating character, when a pirating situation is happening. It can't be there to assist, kill players or be there as a threat.

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[chovynz]

Im pretty sure the trader was pirated fair and square.
The pirate was in the right place at teh right time, and the trader shouldn't
have hung about watching the battle between the OC and the LPI anyway.

Edit: from what i saw the destroyer had nothing to do with it.

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[Akumabito]

Im pretty sure the trader was pirated fair and square.
The pirate was in the right place at teh right time, and the trader shouldn't
have hung about watching the battle between the OC and the LPI anyway.

The cruiser shouldn't have been there either.

It should be reported. If it doesn't happen again nothing will come of the report, but if this is a pirate that likes to bend the rules this is the first step to reigning him in.

[xxrockstar992xx]

i was the pilot of the destroyer vessel, i can asure you i did nothing at all with the pirating of the trader, yes i was in a group with them, i was not even protecting him, infact i wasnent even paying attention to him, i was looking that the lpi officer in a lf, i didnt not even touch that trader


*edited-i said pirate not pilot

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[12:51:19 PM] Sean: Actually, Alex is cool, I forgot 8-)

[Baltar]

I would just look in chat and see if the cruiser was grouped with the pirates. If he was report it.

Grouped or not ... the rule states the one actually doing the pirating is the one that the rule applies to. If he's in a gunboat or smaller ... its good. Just because he's grouped with a destroyer doesn't mean the gunboat can't pirate.

Can you have a Destroyer/Cruiser with you when you go pirating, to take out enemy military crafts/NPC's/tradelanes so that the pirate in the fighter/bomber/gunboat can concentrate solely on pirating trading vessels?

The only thing the destroyer or cruiser can do is protect the gunboat or smaller from attack by military/police/bounty hunters/etc. The rule quoted applies only to the actual act of piracy. If the destroyer or cruiser actually fires upon the trader ... then you have problems.

If the trader felt he couldn't act as he normally would because of the threat of the cruiser, then there is an issue.

If the cruiser was protecting the pirate that killed the trader from other forces while the trader was being killed, it's a rather large issue.

Not true. The trader is not in danger of the destroyer or cruiser. Reason is because the destroyer or cruiser would (or should) know that he could be sanctioned if he actually fired on the trader. The rule protects the trader from destroyers and cruisers. Only danger you have is from the gunboat/fighter/bomber.

NO. That counts as interfering. Not allowed.

Where does the rule say ANYTHING about interfering? A destroyer or cruiser can knock out the trade lanes all day long ... so long as he doesn't make demands on or fires upon the trader ... there's nothing wrong.

And ... just because there's a destroyer or cruiser present doesn't mean he's pirating.

Let the rule speak for itself and stop reading into it what's not there.

[chovynz]

Alright guys...you forced me to this.
I was the trader.
The pirate took advantage of my distraction. The destroyer wasnt even a threat.
I have no problem with being pirated like that as he caught me with my pants down.
I have learnd to not stay and watch.
End of discussion. Akum this did not have anything to do with you so stop posting.
Destroyer guy you were ok, you had nothing to do with the piracy.
Pirate guy! good on you for taking advantage of the situation.

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[Dab]

Guys, the group thing has nothing to do with this.. It is counted on whether or not the destroyer took part in the piracy. Being as close as he was, I'd say that yes, he was interfering, however he did not actually get involved, so he broke no rule.

Now, by many of you guy's logic, a guy pirating in Sigma-13 can get his friend, who is in a destroyer in ALPHA, sanctioned, just by being grouped. So please guys, enough with the 'He was grouped, sanction him! Blah blah blah..' Its pretty whiny.

but if this is a pirate that likes to bend the rules this is the first step to reigning him in.

Or it could be the first step in pissing off a person, or getting a person in trouble, when he did nothing wrong. Every choice has consequences, they aren't always what you expect, and they aren't always good. Think about the other outcomes your actions can make, not just what you hope they can.


I'm gonna agree with Baltar on this.

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[Baltar]

The cruiser shouldn't have been there either.

It should be reported. If it doesn't happen again nothing will come of the report, but if this is a pirate that likes to bend the rules this is the first step to reigning him in.

And lawfuls shouldn't be thrusting toward NPC battleship groups during a fight ... but they do.

Listen ... just because an enemy destroyer or cruiser is nearby doesn't mean he's reportable. For all you know. The destroyer or cruiser was just sittin there having a sandwich and you flew too close to him. Heck ... are you gonna report the Rogue Destroyer (NPC base) in New York when a trader flies by it while being pirated?

[AdamantineFist]

Guys, the trader responded. THE CRUISER WAS IN NO WAY AFFECTING HIS JUDGEMENT, THREATENING HIM, OR OTHERWISE INTERFERING WITH THE PIRACY. CASE CLOSED.

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[Dab]

Heck ... are you gonna report the Rogue Destroyer (NPC base) in New York when a trader flies by it while being pirated?

I'm gonna report that Kusari Battleship that was by Planet Junyo during the attempted piracy of my Liner..

.Ban!

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