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-keep out of omicron 100!-
Offline stone
06-13-2008, 04:18 AM,
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' Wrote:The thing is... should smugglers even know that route? RP-wise, that is. It seems a little far-fetched, to be honest.


And y not i explored found the rout and now i use it.

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Offline Dennis Jameson
06-13-2008, 04:19 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-13-2008, 04:19 AM by Dennis Jameson.)
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But! Not many people know about the order system, the same goes for the nomad systems, and you have to go through Alaska when you take that route. That's nice, isn't it? You know, seeming how Alaska is a secret too.

Edit: That's a nice roleplaying attitude! Have a cookie.

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Akumabito
06-13-2008, 04:21 AM,
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As I see it, an unaligned smuggler can run carti without matching outcast rep, and not be oorp.

My transport is hostile with every guard I think and neutral to almost every non guard npc, but it hardly matters since cruise disrupter's on NPC's won't disrupt trains 98% of the time going through o-100 is a breeze.
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Offline Tenacity
06-13-2008, 04:22 AM,
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' Wrote:Thats what smuggling is going places where you are not welcome, carrying things that contraband there is no rule that says no one but said factions are allowed in guard systems.


And no, that's not what smuggling is. Smuggling is keeping a low profile while you carry contraband so you DONT get caught.

Going through a system that's, for all intents and purposes, restricted to Order vessels only is -not- keeping a low profile. Every ship there is going to scan you given the chance, and once you're found out they will hound you until you're dead.

There's hundreds of Order fighters in that system, as well as three bases and a battleship. They have the resources to kill one smuggler trying to move through it without escorts - that should be more than enough to deter any smuggler from using the route.

And it's not just that - even if you did manage to make it through O-100, you'd have to go through omicron minor - where you're awaited by a few hundred more fighters and another battleship - and after that you'd have to go through alaska; the most heavily defended system in all of liberty. There's dozens of npc patrols around the gate and bouy path in alaska consisting of gunboats, cruisers, fighters, and dreadnaughts.

No smuggler, realistically, would make it through any one of those systems without a cloaking device - and oh, hey, they dont exist in the mod! The only ship to ever use a cloaking device in vanilla was the osiris, and I'm damn sure you smugglers dont have access to that tech.

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Offline stone
06-13-2008, 04:22 AM,
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' Wrote:Which one?
Exactly. Outcasts smuggling cardamine should be using the tau/kusariberty route. The entire route is jump holes, it keeps you away from trade lanes, and you dont have to go through any hostile guard systems.

Yes, it takes longer to go that route, deal with it. You're already making stupid amounts of money off your cardamine, a couple million fewer credits an hour isnt going to kill you.


Solarzs is my smuggler, y should i change my route if you don't like me being there blow me out of the sky I wont QQ and complain about it. I am not a outcast at all I'm a freelance smuggler i work for myself and go where i please there is no server rule saying i cant enter guard systems and until there is i will go where i please.

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Offline Tenacity
06-13-2008, 04:24 AM,
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Quote:As I see it, an unaligned smuggler can run carti without matching outcast rep, and not be oorp.

You dont get it. Omicron 100 is a GUARD system. NOBODY is allowed there except the order - even our allies (corsairs/zoners) are very heavily escorted when they move through the system for whatever reason.

Anyone else is kill on sight, no matter what your rep is. The order guard doesnt care if you're trying to play nuetral - that's using limitations of the game to your advantage and is OORP behavior.

Quote:My transport is hostile, but it hardly matters since cruise disrupter's on NPC's won't disrupt trains 98% of the time going through o-100 is a breeze.

Again, using game limitations to your advantage.

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Offline stone
06-13-2008, 04:26 AM,
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' Wrote:And no, that's not what smuggling is. Smuggling is keeping a low profile while you carry contraband so you DONT get caught.

Going through a system that's, for all intents and purposes, restricted to Order vessels only is -not- keeping a low profile. Every ship there is going to scan you given the chance, and once you're found out they will hound you until you're dead.

There's hundreds of Order fighters in that system, as well as three bases and a battleship. They have the resources to kill one smuggler trying to move through it without escorts - that should be more than enough to deter any smuggler from using the route.

And it's not just that - even if you did manage to make it through O-100, you'd have to go through omicron minor - where you're awaited by a few hundred more fighters and another battleship - and after that you'd have to go through alaska; the most heavily defended system in all of liberty. There's dozens of npc patrols around the gate and bouy path in alaska consisting of gunboats, cruisers, fighters, and dreadnaughts.

No smuggler, realistically, would make it through any one of those systems without a cloaking device - and oh, hey, they dont exist in the mod! The only ship to ever use a cloaking device in vanilla was the osiris, and I'm damn sure you smugglers dont have access to that tech.


And another think I'm sick of people telling me how smugglers "should" act this is my Character i don't try to dictate the RP on your character so please don't try to dictate myn.

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Offline Tenacity
06-13-2008, 04:27 AM,
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' Wrote:And another think I'm sick of people telling me how smugglers "should" act this is my Character i don't try to dictate the RP on your character so please don't try to dictate myn.

Start acting in-character and with some common sense and people wouldnt tell you otherwise.

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Offline RickJames
06-13-2008, 04:29 AM,
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Don't know if the Order Guard NPC's do this but if they do not; have them scan and order folks with cardamine to drop it.

In addition, Omi-100 could use with a nice big increase in Order Guard NPC's and extended and increased patrol paths.

This would by no means fix the issue but it might do as a small stop gap.

To be true to RP anyone, even Order allies and Order members themselves, carrying Cardamine would instantly be attacked by The Order Guard. So even the excuse that they are a Zoner or god forbid a Corsair cardamine smuggler would not excuse them being neutral or friendly with the Order Guard. Least thats my opinion.
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Offline stone
06-13-2008, 04:32 AM,
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' Wrote:Start acting in-character and with some common sense and people wouldnt tell you otherwise.


How you think a smuggler "should" act is not the case here. Bottom line is it is not against server rules to cut through guard systems and until it is i will continue to do so.

' Wrote:Don't know if the Order Guard NPC's do this but if they do not; have them scan and order folks with cardamine to drop it.

In addition, Omi-100 could use with a nice big increase in Order Guard NPC's and extended and increased patrol paths.

This would by no means fix the issue but it might do as a small stop gap.

To be true to RP anyone, even Order allies and Order members themselves, carrying Cardamine would instantly be attacked by The Order Guard. So even the excuse that they are a Zoner or god forbid a Corsair cardamine smuggler would not excuse them being neutral or friendly with the Order Guard. Least thats my opinion.



Again like i said i am 100% hostile to Order guard.

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