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Offline AdamantineFist
06-15-2008, 12:43 AM,
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' Wrote:Adamantine Fist, they did capture a Rheinland battleship, and promptly sent it into Omicron 85. You can see the wreck north-ish of Bastia.

Oh... cool! I never noticed that... then again, I never did much exploring of 85, just enough to find the Captana and Corsica Outer Sanctum.

' Wrote:We were actually moving the ships to the unknown system through means of being unseen before getting public rp in properly. But, we were caught. I rathered the battlestar seeing as Zoners actually have the technology for such deep space exploration, it would make sense. I find the Zoners to be the guilds biggest ally.

You have a point, but I say that that's a bit of a big investment when you could instead buy something like 45 Kusari Explorers for that price.

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Offline kevin
06-15-2008, 12:45 AM,
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Yes, we were moving the vessel to remain unseen by the public, as Guyton has stated in the above post.

I am also the Player who used the Rheinland Cruiser, so if there are any questions i would glady answer them.

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Offline AdamantineFist
06-15-2008, 12:46 AM,
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Oh, I'm fine with the cruiser. Seems cool. It's the Battlestar I'm a bit worried about.

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Offline Guyton
06-15-2008, 12:48 AM,
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' Wrote:Oh... cool! I never noticed that... then again, I never did much exploring of 85, just enough to find the Captana and Corsica Outer Sanctum.
You have a point, but I say that that's a bit of a big investment when you could instead buy something like 45 Kusari Explorers for that price.

A kusari explorer wouldn't have the proper supplies to continue a long journey, or the defenses. In a universe where nearly anything could be out there. Would you explore the unknown with arms of light?

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Offline DBoy1612
06-15-2008, 12:52 AM,
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' Wrote:Let me add up we do not fly caps as you would think we do. The Rheinland Cruiser that was there was being setup for a roleplay story. Xcalibur however is setup as a exploration vessel rp meant to set out to search for the GMG's prime goal "Colonization of an Ocean world" . We figured it would be an excellent story.

Rhienland Cruiser = Exodus

During the 80 Years War this cruiser was captured along side with the battleship Namura. Suffering from navigational hazards when it was damaged during battle. Instead of following the Namura it instead went off in the opposite direction towards the New Berlin jumphole. A ship of its size would make such a thing unstable which it did sending it off to a unknown location. During this time this vessel was lost it actually came across the ocean world the guild was looking for. Lost with a destroyed navigation system the journey began. Story continues through generation after generation as life contnues apart the ship.

-Name given by historians after rp

Battlestar = Xcalibur

This vessel was one of the early prototypes of the Zoners. With the guilds situation with the outcasts and corsairs it began to feel the strain hardly being able to protect itself due to the still low population after the war. Its last option was to turn to its allies for help. With weaker ships not being able to make a journey from the local systems without being destroyed. The Xcalibur was created for deep space exploration. During its journey it eventually came across the Exodus.

We actually fly fighters more than anything. Those that fly through Sigma-13 would have to agree with that.

The Rheinland Cruiser story doesn't exactly fit up now does it as if I remember correctly through the rumors in Rheinland, the GMG never managed to capture any of Rheinland ships (other then that dead battleship in 85), but instead used their fighters in defense against the Rheinland house. It there was truly a background behind a Cruiser running off to a GMG base with a dead nav system, it would of been mentioned. Because if you manage to use their current story, then anyone could do the same. Next thing ya know you'll have a Liberty Dread run off to Crete and become a Corsair. Sorry mate, ain't gonna run, especially with the GMG and RM repboard.

The battlestar? Your story states it with an early prototype of the Zoners, right? Well then why would the Zoners give such a dedicated experiment of Zoner craft to the GMG? Simple, they wouldn't. Allies or not, they wouldn't, 'cause they're miners... It was said in the Battlestar infocard that the battlestar specs itself were given to three other factions, and the GMG weren't one of them. I doubt the Zoners would have it sold to anyone else, even if it were their allies. Oh, and forgetting, why would the GMG need to explore anything outside their own space, especially in a battlestar? If you want to explore, buy a transport or a gunboat, not a battlestar with a cap 8 armor...

' Wrote:Didn't GMG fight Rheinland.....and kind of win.

If that's so it makes a whole lot of sense for them to have capships. They bested Rheinland.

If that's accurate.

If they are allowed to use capships then the Battlestars do not seem all that oorp. But thats if they are allowed to use capships.

They lost to Rheinland within Sigma 13 because they were ambushed by the overwhelming amount of fighters and the exploding gas clouds, not because they flew capital ships. So no, that doesn't exactly fit.

EDIT: Wow there are a lot of posts I missed... *Goes to read*

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Offline AdamantineFist
06-15-2008, 12:52 AM,
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' Wrote:A kusari explorer wouldn't have the proper supplies to continue a long journey, or the defenses. In a universe where nearly anything could be out there. Would you explore the unknown with arms of light?
Whut? I get to have my arms made out of energy? Awesome!!!

Quote:First ships of the Kusari Explorer type were built in 490 A.S., the period when space exploration was considered very important for the House of Kusari. Bearing a power array and weapon systems similar to a Gunboat, the Explorers were enough reliable to spend long months and even years completely alone with a small crew onboard, mapping remote systems and seeking uncharted jump holes. These years, period of active space exploration is over for Kusari, but it is not for the Gas Miners Guild who are constantly seeking for new mineable areas in the Sirius nebulas and use many Explorer-type vessels to increase research efficiency. Several Explorers also stay on service of the Kusari Naval Forces.

See? Says it can go exploring for years! I'd think that these would be the vessel of choice for GMG exploration.

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Offline bluntpencil2001
06-15-2008, 12:54 AM,
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Well, if they captured a battleship, I can see them capturing a cruiser too, I guess. It's not game-breaking. I'd like to see the story when it's ready.

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Offline Tenacity
06-15-2008, 12:55 AM,
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yea dude... the kusari explorer was DESIGNED for deep space exploration. When they were ditched by kusari once it established it's borders, the few left over were sold, primarily to the GMG.

The kusari explorer should be one of the GMG's primary ships for exploration and defense... not battlestars or any other battleship.

The explorer is well defended and well enough armed to deal with nomads and such in unkown space. Load it up with a few missile turrets and a couple razors and you'll be able to fight off any nomads without a problem.

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Offline Guyton
06-15-2008, 12:57 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-15-2008, 01:01 AM by Guyton.)
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' Wrote:The Rheinland Cruiser story doesn't exactly fit up now does it as if I remember correctly through the rumors in Rheinland, the GMG never managed to capture any of Rheinland ships (other then that dead battleship in 85), but instead used their fighters in defense against the Rheinland house. It there was truly a background behind a Cruiser running off to a GMG base with a dead nav system, it would of been mentioned. Because if you manage to use their current story, then anyone could do the same. Next thing ya know you'll have a Liberty Dread run off to Crete and become a Corsair. Sorry mate, ain't gonna run, especially with the GMG and RM repboard.

The battlestar? Your story states it with an early prototype of the Zoners, right? Well then why would the Zoners give such a dedicated experiment of Zoner craft to the GMG? Simple, they wouldn't. Allies or not, they wouldn't, 'cause they're miners... It was said in the Battlestar infocard that the battlestar specs itself were given to three other factions, and the GMG weren't one of them. I doubt the Zoners would have it sold to anyone else, even if it were their allies. Oh, and forgetting, why would the GMG need to explore anything outside their own space, especially in a battlestar? If you want to explore, buy a transport or a gunboat, not a battlestar with a cap 8 armor...
They lost to Rheinland within Sigma 13 because they were ambushed by the overwhelming amount of fighters and the exploding gas clouds, not because they flew capital ships. So no, that doesn't exactly fit.

EDIT: Wow there are a lot of posts I missed... *Goes to read*

Rumors doesn't exactly go over all of history does it? Remember that the ship is LOST the GMG never knew it survived therefore who would confirm it was captured? Also your comment of the Zoners in all words are completely wrong. GMG and Zoners share a strong economic bond they would surely give any help to their allies. Battlestar? not given to their allies but sold to different factions at a high price? Your not being realistic here.... GMG just miners? yet they captured vessels and destroyed the largest warmachine of the houses eh? My you are so right what would they be thinking!

Edited: Kusari Explorer would survive an outcasts attack when a battleship with escorts couldn't? How would it survive and gather information before it returns home? How would we know the journey would only take months?

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Offline bluntpencil2001
06-15-2008, 12:59 AM,
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Also, please remember that in spite of losing the 80 Years War, the Rheinland Military then completely owned the GMG during the Nomad War.

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