I know there is some bad feelings about blanket bounties.

[Ceoran]

In my opinion this should be suspended ASAP, of course except for rewards regarding Bretonia corporations, as they are at war, and about that thing with its history, i see no indication that Samura ever did that kind of enforcement, but even if it did, currently Samura is undergoing a hard time because of expired contract with GMG, and cutting herself all the connections with outside firms could very well drive Samura into bankruptcy, since its two main projects are feeding overgrown Kussari population and building those trade routes, both are dependent on "gajin" firms, what corporation would cut her two main business, contract just for the sake of tradition.

Arigato Ketsukei Bo.
We are always pleased at the services your people carry out for us.
Your money is being sent as we speak and you should expect it soon.
For now this board is on hold awaiting a final examination by our legal department, we shall let you know personally when it is back in business.

Note the bolded part. 22 hours ago.

As for the projects you mentioned: You seem to have mixed up something there. Samuras income from food production has been decreasing ever since Synth Foods showed up in Kusari. We produce more than we need, hence we are shipping some of it to the Omicrons.
Also, Samura is not and never intended to cut their relations with outside corporations. We still want their stuff. We just want it back like "in the good old days" when foreigners had to drop their cargo at the borders and let Samura and Kishiro do the inner-Kusari distribution. (Side-note to those who are going to bring it up: Narita is not at the border.)

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Go play the game, within the given limitations. That is how role play games are played. Not by trying to work around those limitations or whining about them.

[Cap.Kennedy]

And where did we say we were cutting off all connections with outside corporations?
And we are not doing too badly from the GMG cutting off our deal with H-Fuel, there are plenty more things the GMG do that affect us greater.
I will also say that Samura is involved with a lot more than those two things you mention.

Khm*. http://discoverygc.com/wiki/index.php/Samu...eavy_Industries

And how exactly do you think those companies are supposed to deliver goods to you, you need those goods for your industries you know.

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I saw you walking down the streat, your eyes, your lips, your nose, everything was so perfect. I started singing "who let the dogs out."

[Markus_Janus]

You're just turning stuff around now. Are you saying its up to the community to come up with a solution for the mess you're creating with your bounty board?

Here's some input. Close the board down and make a careful selection of targets you want Hogosha and AFA to hunt down. Careful selection doesn't mean every single corporation in Sirius, incl Independents and Miners, or companies that Samura profits from.


Better make that a little more clear in the bounty thread, cause the Avengers submitted a lot of claims today.

Would it not be the hunters "responsibility" to check out if it is open or not?
About the part in red, how does making less targets equal being careful?

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Samura Omotai Zaibatsu.

[Markus_Janus]

Khm*. http://discoverygc.com/wiki/index.php/Samu...eavy_Industries

And how exactly do you think those companies are supposed to deliver goods to you, you need those goods for your industries you know.

The same way as they get past BD, GC, pirates and others who want to stop them.
I can assure you that the F.A. and Hogosha are not super pirates that are 10x more efficient than the BD and GC.

And yes you now have one document about Samura, I am sure that you could easily find a lot more if interested.


Allow me to spell this out, one more time.
Samura would never do anything to drive away all compitition, that would be stupid.

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Samura Omotai Zaibatsu.

[alphadog]

The first post does not mention it being closed. Hunters should not have to check replies to see if it is still open.

Right now, you're targetting everyone. I highly doubt thats careful consideration if you really want all those factions dead in Kusari. That is what a bounty means.

Also, I get that you're doing it for inRP reasons, but those reasons simply don't line up with ingame mechanics, trade balance and inRP consequences connected to them. Companies can't drop off goods at the border, so instead you just take it? Its impossible to archieve your inRP goals with current game mechanics.

[Markus_Janus]

Well that is the hard part to work out.
The ingame mechanics are what we are dealing with now, and I do believe it can work, however that is still to be seen.
I do have a problem with a bounty meaning dead factions, if they are so bad, why are they allowed to exist.
I have answered before on my stance if anyone finds it is really causing trouble, they can drop me a line.
Now the bounty is closed for now, I will make that more obvious if you like.

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[Cap.Kennedy]

Well that is the hard part to work out.
The ingame mechanics are what we are dealing with now, and I do believe it can work, however that is still to be seen.
I do have a problem with a bounty meaning dead factions, if they are so bad, why are they allowed to exist.
I have answered before on my stance if anyone finds it is really causing trouble, they can drop me a line.
Now the bounty is closed for now, I will make that more obvious if you like.

Congrats for dropping those bounties, not many people are there that are ready to see reason, bounties are mostly intended for factions that are hostile to each other, one more thing, none of us remembered RP element called marketing, Samura certainly cant allow itself to be seen as complete bad guy, because if that was so then none would buy its products.

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I saw you walking down the streat, your eyes, your lips, your nose, everything was so perfect. I started singing "who let the dogs out."

[Markus_Janus]

Congrats for dropping those bounties, not many people are there that are ready to see reason, bounties are mostly intended for factions that are hostile to each other, one more thing, none of us remembered RP element called marketing, Samura certainly cant allow itself to be seen as complete bad guy, because if that was so then none would buy its products.

Just clear up the bounties are closed pending changes, not closed for good just yet.
The question still remains, why would we be seen as the bad guys, just because some pirate attacks you?
And just look at what some companies, that are still alive and kicking today, have done in the past.
The world is fickle and forgets things very easily.
And forgiveness is always so easy to ask for.
A person may remember, but people forget.

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[SnakThree]

@Snak3:
I keep getting the feeling that you just happen to see this as another obstacle on your goal of making the IC ultimate powertraders who can trade with everyone in any ship without any consequences. Sorry, but that's the message that comes across from the more emotional part.
However, concerning your support for the GC (since we don't care about hessians): I'm sure we can make an ooRP agreement allowing you to actually RP that part out without us metagaming it under the condition that you give us the same courtesy in return. And by metagaming I would include any retarded attempts to force/lure the other side into revealing themselves.

I keep getting the feeling you ended up with arguments and tried pulling this card. Let them be foolish enough to mess with the best, with those who know how IC business is done. Failed attempt is failed. I never spoke here with bias on IC. I spoke as a player with concerns about other players.

You think it's good roleplay to blast indie who surely is unaware of how to deliver criminal evidence against legal pirates? And then have excuse "evidence or it didn't happen".

I say claim where destruction of IC vessel was in Shikoku. Sad imho.

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[Cap.Kennedy]

Just clear up the bounties are closed pending changes, not closed for good just yet.
The question still remains, why would we be seen as the bad guys, just because some pirate attacks you?
And just look at what some companies, that are still alive and kicking today, have done in the past.
The world is fickle and forgets things very easily.
And forgiveness is always so easy to ask for.
A person may remeber, but people forget.

Well, the fact is Samura is, although considered monopolist by many, actually very vulnerable from that side, because there is another firm in Kussari, Kishiro, and they are just waiting to get customers on their side.

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I saw you walking down the streat, your eyes, your lips, your nose, everything was so perfect. I started singing "who let the dogs out."