Make PoBs invulnerable to player damage. Oh, and also turn off PvP in server settings. Then all bad people would leave Discovery and all good people would build Kingdom of Heaven here.
I got your ideas right?
You do realize how wrong are you? He stated several times, that should the RP surrounding the siege be better, he wouldn't even bother defending it. The thing that irks me is the fact that RHA couldn't even be bothered with a decent RP. On a Bloody RP server.
And the second thing? Turn of PvP? Why? Where did he said anything about it?
Mate you are living walking proof of what's wrong with this server. No arguments? Don't worrry I can isnult the other guy instead.
(10-21-2016, 11:19 PM)Antonio Wrote: Let's look at our most popular POB recently, Reutligen. The only reason 90% of the people are sieging it is because it's in the mining field. Nothing else. If the base was outside of the field, nobody would care. There's always a good enough reason behind the siege because the siege mechanic itself is very unrewarding, boring and exhausting. No person wants to waste hours of his life afk right clicking an object if he doesn't have a good reason to. Mining field POB? Gives pretty much everyone a good reason, it's one of the most harmful things in terms of player interaction possible on the server.
You know this is a blatant excuse that a few selected people have exploited in order to drive their sheep-members to make jorms. The inmense majority of the people who attack the base have been led to believe that they're making a huge favour to the server by acting in the righteous way. I'd bet my strafe hand on most of those people having never interacted with the base in any way.
PvP being relevant is okay. Sieging bases is okay. What isn't okay is having 0 risks while doing it. The attackers can virtually lose nothing while the defenders will lose stuff even if they succesfully defend. It's a broken system that needs a major rework.
Quote:It's just every year that someone like you come here and whine about how harsh local environments are and how badly things need to be changed.
You're just cute. Banned for cheating, then docking whenever you were getting demolished and only engaging when you had a good 3 vs 1 ratio, trying to cruise away when that doesn't work either. Don't try giving lessons around when you're the joke that you are, would you?
Agreed with you Yber.
Also keep in mind that many of those who have been shooting the station for hours have nothing better to do than that. It only resumes to firing the same static object for hours which I find boring. I don't see where's the fun there. A waste of time if you ask me.
(10-22-2016, 09:25 AM)Zyliath Wrote: @Sanctions You just demonstrated your vitriolic and unfriendly attitude.
I expected something else from a respected member such as yourself.
That's arguable. Not sure if you're not confusing me with someone as that one below does.
(10-22-2016, 10:12 AM)Yber Wrote: You're just cute. Banned for cheating, then docking whenever you were getting demolished and only engaging when you had a good 3 vs 1 ratio, trying to cruise away when that doesn't work either. Don't try giving lessons around when you're the joke that you are, would you?
Care to write my biography? I might acknowledge some interesting details about myself. Keep whining though.
(10-22-2016, 09:25 AM)Zyliath Wrote: @Sanctions You just demonstrated your vitriolic and unfriendly attitude.
I expected something else from a respected member such as yourself.
That's arguable. Not sure if you're not confusing me with someone as that one below does.
I don't. Sorry pal, my statement about you is pretty solid.
Yber's statement is also solid as much as mine, if not even more solid.
Try again, because you FAILED BIG TIME.
Well... If the problem with the said pobby was it's location... We could always go deeper. Hessians laid a siege on it for their reasons... It was killing interactions, well maybe. It was built yet before the "core2 max in field" rule was introduced, so it wasn't a part of this rule at all. I can understand that rp standards of some part of our community can be disappointing. But the thing is... Base's relocations are really pretty much impossible. It is 'possible' by a player request, but what does the request actually mean? You need to have a good reason behind it, you need to have a lot of staff voting on it (what's taking some weeks if not months itself) and there's a high chance of being denied. The simpliest solution to Rsomething's problem would be a simple base's relocation moving it like 20k from the field to make Hessians' arguments invalid, leaving a base for Kruger| and traders also avoiding lots of toxicity within the community.
tl : dr ==> If a rule is introduced after the base is constructed, the pob should still meet the rules' limits. It may need moving from one point to another, but that's pretty much necessary. The problem is that it requires 1000000000 of staff to vote on it, delaying it for weeks if not months.
(10-22-2016, 03:06 AM)Redeemer Wrote: Seriously? I think the real problem is the destruction of the POB itself.
In this context, I also think it's a problem, just because of the weak and awful RP backing it up. Under better circumstances, the destruction of the PoB wouldn't bother me one bit though. This thread isn't for just the RHA attack on Reutlingen though. It just happens to be the most recent case of something that is blatantly wrong, yet ignored.
Come on man. Don't blame every problem on "lack of RP". The problem is people are made to channel their efforts into creating something for weeks which can be destroyed within a few hours. The base could have wonderful RP, and the players who destroyed it could have wonderful RP, but the fact that people had their efforts nuked would still suck. And I agree that it does suck. I also agree with most of what you say in the OP.
(10-22-2016, 10:03 AM)Thyrzul Wrote:
(10-22-2016, 03:06 AM)Redeemer Wrote: Seriously? I think the real problem is the destruction of the POB itself.
Seriously? I think the real problem is the existence of PoBs itself.
Seriously, the real problem is how they're implemented. I made a few suggestions on how to adjust them in another thread. Maybe I should make one only dedicated to that.
Although I do think the way bases are getting nuked isn't the right way to address problems about POBs, and is more like pissing contest. Some people offered others a chance to feel all strong and powerful in a group blowing stuff up, telling them they're doing something good. Some of the guys who grabbed the torches and pitch forks may genuinely think they're doing something good, but it's still mainly a testosterone driven pissing contest.
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