I think something else. I think you've done the hard work of finding info out and that you so willingly put up there for the good of the wider Disco community (read mod users), and taken it personally when that work that you've done has been "discarded" like a broken little toy.
I think you feel cheated, and devalued, and not listened to.
Am I right?
Sovereign Wrote:Seek fun and you shall find it. Seek stuff to Q_Q about and you'll find that, too. I choose to have fun.
Since someone finally bothered to let me know about this, I will comment.
I personally removed the location of Fort Leniex from the Wiki.
I did not do this to set a precedent. Please reread the discussion: it was concluded that the sector, but not the exact location, would be shown.
I don't see why Fort Leniex in particular is such an issue.
For instance, the Unknown Object in Chester; it is a Nomad base, and it has the sector - the sector, not where exactly it is in relation to the plane - on it.
New York and Alaska; absolutely no mention of how to get past the mine field.
Corsica Outer Sanctum's Wiki page doesn't mention its exact location in comparison to the plane, either, and it's far more public than Leniex (albeit visible on scanners)
Same goes for the Alien Jump Gate in Kansas; it says its below the plane, yes, but it doesn't say exactly where below the plane.
Terre Haute's Wiki page doesn't say exactly where it is, either, does it?
I could even get ridiculous and say "Does the Missouri's say where it is compared to the plane?". After all, it is 50m below the plane.
Why on earth should Leniex's exact location be specified, then?
Are you panicking because the Hellfire Legion account was the one to bring that into constancy with every single other base, secret or otherwise, that's anywhere on the Wiki? Would you rather I have created a totally separate account to do exactly the same thing?
I fail to see why this is a problem when it was the conclusion of both a discussion by other editors and consistent with all other similar articles. The only falsification that went on is the removal of the distance and direction off the plane that it was.
So go nitpick elsewhere and stop Q_Q'ing because your article edit was undone to match the pre-discussed conclusion and to maintain consistency.
It has nothing to do with stopping people from getting equipment, either. If you're really too lazy to find it yourself, you can even (gasp!) ask someone. If you're a Hacker, most other Hackers/VR members/HF members'll be decent enough to let you know, out of character, where the place is. If you're on the official server, we might even show you.
That said, this'll all be a moot point when .86 rolls around, so I honestly don't care if you add it back. I removed it for the sake of consistency; if the Administration doesn't want it removed, I could honestly care less.
Game, people. Game. Not worth starting flame threads over, especially for something this ridiculously trivial.
... And oh my goodness people are posting fast.
cshake: Again, could care less. It's easy to do; just keep it consistent. The distance off the plane was sitting right there next to the coordinates in the infobox. There's not one other article where that's been done.
EisenSeele: Oh yes. It's a faction conspiracy. Keep it up. I hear the wholesalers are making a fortune off of tin hats these days.
Seriously, I'm not sure what else to say to that. Might've made me laugh if it wasn't a little bit pathetic.
Soong: Good points, in general. And less of an essay than mine, too.
System and contents fully goes to the Hellfire Legion in .86, with the LH getting a guard base in a currently undisclosed location. This is final, and has been planned for a very long time. As such, I believe we have the right to remove its location from the navmap. If you want a Hacker gunship or whatever, you could always, you know...
Well, even if I am not right, EisenSeele, I want to personally thank you for
1.) Contributing to the wiki,
2.) Doing something that you care about.
3.) Trying to make Disco a better place.
I think it's really awesome that you are trying to do so, and am glad to see it happen more and more.
We need contributors like you who feel a great passion for accuracy and content on the wiki. You've brought up some great comments, and thoughts. Yes I did see the page you were talking about, even before this thread was posted. but instead of talking to you about it I thought I would see where it goes.
You did the right thing in bringing it to the public. However as a longtime wiki editor I want to suggest that for the sake of the community right here, that you are involved in, can I suggest that you let this one go?
You have a place to fill in the wiki additions. Again thank you for contributing TO the wiki. I would, suggest, that you come alongside some of the longer time editors and ask where they need help. They would then value your contributions more than what has been perceived as a slight on your honour.
Again, thanks for adding to the value of the wiki. I hope you will continue to do so.
Sovereign Wrote:Seek fun and you shall find it. Seek stuff to Q_Q about and you'll find that, too. I choose to have fun.
... And it seems Denelo said my point much better than I can.
Characters Alan Markson: The Hellfire Legion's Lord Commander The Perihelion: Freeport Four's guardian, and yet much more. Missing and assumed Lost with all hands. Eric Dresmund: Junker, smuggler, thief. Last seen drunk on Beaumont Vayrn Wyard: IMG Recon pilot turned Neo-Terran Captain. Last location unknown
' Wrote:System and contents fully goes to the Hellfire Legion in .86, with the LH getting a guard base in a currently undisclosed location. This is final, and has been planned for a very long time. As such, I believe we have the right to remove its location from the navmap. If you want a Hacker gunship or whatever, you could always, you know...
Contact the faction leader(s)?
Part of the disagreement to this one simple issue was "Other disco servers use the discovery wiki, servers which do not have the Hellfire Legion controlling Vespucci"
Good argument there, until you look at the numerous pages that have similarly hidden locations that have absolutely no road map on how to get there.
For those afraid the links might be a Rick Roll:
Heres the spoiler for Unknown Object
Quote:SPOILER: [Hide]
No bribes offered here
Wait, that didnt tell me where it was!?! It didnt say its 5k past C5, 10k down, 20k North, 50k Up, and 10k to the right?
Heres the last sentence, to the end of the page for Atum
Quote:From its position, hidden within Alaska's nebula, Order forces fend off attempts by the Liberty Navy and the Bounty Hunters Guild to advance into Omicron Minor proper.
Missions Offered
No missions offered here
Bribes Offered
No bribes offered here
Commodities
Exports
* Prisoners
Imports
* Deuterium
Interesting, the Atum is.... er, wait... NO!!! WHERES THE SPOILER! I'll check if its inside the sun.
Sorry if this has been even a little bit flamey, but it was all said in a good tone as I typed this out of amusement of reading the references Denelo made.
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