Taus problems.. A civil word?

[r3vange]

The hate in my opinion is generated by the so called ganking so that's what I am

going to talk about try to explain my viewpoint on it

I have to admit something, I was quite the raging one and still am. Meaning that I still

rage over ganks in 23 and scream like a baby people that know me can confirm but in the past several days I

realized something. There absolutely no point in raging especially in 23 since metaphorically said the situation

there is like a dice, one day we gank the other we are getting ganked. I can very well understand your point

Chenzie as I myself (or more appropriately us-13th) have send a lot of distress calls "HALP 101st WE ARE 2

FIGHTERS AGAINST SOLIE CARRIER AND 2 GBS AND A NYX AND WE CAN DO FRAKK ALL SINCE THE

NYXES REFUSED A DUEL" or in term we responded to many calls like this from the 101st. That's fine by me,

I have asked and responded and I will ask. But even though my outcast (I don't have a CR so I can't really

be realistic about your point of view) pride will be hurt in saying that, I have seen how 3 indie OC dreads

who think that RP is a sexually transmitted disease offer a fair to 2 Nyxes... I know the official factions and

the organized unofficial ones can't take responsibility for the indies that disregard orders, and even if those

indies are the only reason we outnumber the enemy it is still a gank and they are still outcasts. I am trying

to say that no matter what we do, say, rage, that won't really fix the problem in the 23 unless wiping Cali

and Java off the map. So my advise for everyone is to chill down, in a war numbers doesn't always

guarantee victory. I know it's annoying, and I can name at least one good player who quit because of it but

currently it is part of the game, and playing that game is our choice so let's be comfortable with it

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[Ivan]

Retards, they exist everywhere.
No need to take their individual faults for faction ones.

Furthermore, no need to repeat their actions (especially "because they did so").

[Jansen]

Furthermore, no need to repeat their actions (especially "because they did so").

Exactly this. Thats at least what I try to get into peoples heads, even though its rather hard sometimes. Retribution just has no place in this game.
And that sad I was very sad when I flew my nice little Orchid into Tau 23, just to be shot by 3 Gunboats, which after I PM'd them to ask if it was necessary to use that amount of ships, answered 'Yes, you have to gank, otherwise you will be ganked'. Thats the kind of attitude that definitely needs to disappear, but it has to come from both sides of the fence if you want to get rid of it.

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[Bobthemanofsteel]

Are you here to roleplay or are you here to win?
If the answer is the latter, go play a dedicated PvP server.

That is, at least, what everyone should be told upon connecting.

[Panzer]

To be honest - it's about neither group trusting the other anymore. I quit assuming anyone coming from the north has purely RP intentions years ago and not -once- a return-visit was greeted with more than two words. Followed by a hailstorm of gunfire.

It's kinda like fool me once, fool me twice. Well it's been a few hundred times by now and nobody's taking any chances anymore.

Solution? Peace. Preferrably by removing the T37/alpha hole.

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[Rapur]

There is still much fun to be had! Just fly something agile enough to dodge 5 people untill you can run to Cali/Java on your own.

It's what I try to do.

*Logs Tony's BS*

Don't worry Mark, I'm coming to save you! Engaging all evil =BSG= without any warning!

Hell yeah, time to play fair!

[finaldragons]

Chenzo....

Even when i was still active you could be a pain in the ass.

But thats not the point ya can also be a nice guy:)

Problem is all have to little patience and trust,
There was a day CR and OC could play nice with each other (very short time i have to say but still)(i think i had something to do with that:))
It has been done......

But the biggest problem is almost everyone has the same logic one screws up they are all screw-ups.
One make's a mistake they all get blamed.

This has been going on forever (biggest reason that im still not playing)

And moving systems etc won't work the idea of annoying each other runs to deep after this many years.
You would go find each other time after time.

Sit ya ass down around the table and talk plan some stuff make more fun for everyone !
The only thing your getting now is hate and spam about useless junk.


Show some respect for each other and if ppl are really sick of it get some leaders around the table and TALK!

Hell even include some indie's with a brain.


Now go play the game as it should be played!

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If i dont respond PM me i get lost in the massive amounts of posts here ..............

[Backo]

Another thing that pisses off people is Java/Cali camping. Trust me I was unfortunate to be in yesterday's event, even for a shorter time then most. The moment people started hugging Java that was on Viagra and shot pulse like they were some 8.33 gun most people in my group started raging. So yeah, that's another thing that fuels the hate war.

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Republic of the Sword and Sun

[Enojado]

*Logs Tony's BS*

He, he.... he sold it.

That heartless bastard!

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[AeternusDoleo]

If Java hugging: Just blow those snubs out of the sky with friggin battleships. 5K around java as far as I'm concerned is a "you're asking to be ganked" zone.

I think a lot of this animosity stems from the fact that these caps keep coming down. It ended up in a small arms race that continuously sees one side greatly outmatch the other. Gank or be ganked, so to say. Not sure what can be done about it though.

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Wide awake in a world that sleeps, enduring thoughts, enduring scenes. The knowledge of what is yet to come.
From a time when all seems lost, from a dead man to a world, without restraint, unafraid and free.

Mostly retired Discovery member. May still visit from time to time.