Suggestion for Faction [Xenos]

[bluntpencil2001]

Also, Xing, Xenos aren't socialists. If anything, they're neo-Nazis or similar. I imagine them to have large Confederate 'Stars and Bars' flags hanging in Alamo base, grumbling about how 'darn foreigners and immigrants stole their jobs'.

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[Dusty Lens]

They're strong nationalists, first and foremost.

The neo-nazi/kkk thing that some folk like to mention is an allusion that I tend to be wary of.

But, yes, we do sit around Alamo mumbling that 'dey turk ur jerbs!'

[Praetyre]

Neo National Socialists, you say? But yeah, I think they'd be paleoconservatives, KKK style. They are miners (the workers angle), expats (the workers and lower class angle), hate Kusari (the racist angle), live in the Alamo (neoconfederates), and primarily are around Colorado and Texas.

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[bluntpencil2001]

Anyway, to be fair, people here are claiming that the Xenos are more moral than their Unioner counterparts... not entirely true.

The Unioners have the option to get involved in artifact and Cardamine smuggling, according to rumours on Junker bases, but refuse to do so due to ideology. The Xenos, however, are desparate to get in on the Cardamine trade.

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[Dusty Lens]

Neo National Socialists, you say? But yeah, I think they'd be paleoconservatives, KKK style. They are miners (the workers angle), expats (the workers and lower class angle), hate Kusari (the racist angle), live in the Alamo (neoconfederates), and primarily are around Colorado and Texas.

Wow.

[Xing]

Well, as I said, I am basing myself on historical facts. Yes, at first they seems very much fascist, but wasn't Hitler's party calling themselves a "german worker's" party?
Now, I'm not claiming I know that much on fascism. I only know Hitler apparently did held his promise, or at least partially, at giving back jobs to the germans by militarisation if im not wrong.
Now, we cant exactly have this with the xenos, since everyone already claims liberty is over-militarised...
So I thought it would be a more socialist tendency. Based on hisorical basis that would be my conclusion. but I havent thought much on the unioner side indeed.

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[bluntpencil2001]

There is little indication regarding the Xenos' organisation's opinion on economics. They are isolationists and that is all we can really gather. Saying that they would be socialist would be pure supposition.

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[Dusty Lens]

There is little indication regarding the Xenos' organisation's opinion on economics. They are isolationists and that is all we can really gather. Saying that they would be socialist would be pure supposition.

If I'm correct in understanding where you're coming from, you're largely correct.

I'll strive to keep my tendency to draft essays at bay and make it quick and dirty.

The Xeno's situation arose not with the monopolies of Ageira over trade lane licensing, or the growing synth monopolies of foodstuff production, nor with the big three bashing in the front doors of their neighbors but with the massive amounts of inflowing capital promoting Liberty to abandon its own industrial backbone in favor of simply importing foreign products to satiate their consumption needs.

Furthermore, with the privatization of the Liberty Police Force (whom are a much more nefarious group than our own donut swilling fellows would have you believe) an organization sprung into being charged with turning a buck from crime, which led in turn to the veritable harvesting of Liberty's rapidly growing lower classes to power a growing prisoner based labor pool.

The Xenos are descended both from the original organizations of miners left disenfranchised following Liberty's departure from harvesting its own natural resources versus simply importing and those who were inducted into the Xenos by Liberty's self perpetuating cycle of poverty and criminals.

Much of the above also accounts for the Liberty Rogues, though the Xenos are fast becoming the more popular movement in addition to eventually eclipsing the Rogues in sheer manpower.

The Xenos are at odds with foreign commercial interests due to blaming the influx of their goods as the source of their misfortunes. Cut off the flow and Liberty again returns to producing those goods itself.

I'm sure many are of a different mind, but I can't imagine the the Xenos are heavily concerned with facet of Liberty's economic growth so long as it provides room for all of its people, and abstains from its deplorable slave labor practices.

A very clinical view of the situation, but one that fits the bill I believe. At the very least I hope I contributed a little food for thought in terms of the Xeno's goals.

-DL

[Tubalcaine]

Well, as I said, I am basing myself on historical facts. Yes, at first they seems very much fascist, but wasn't Hitler's party calling themselves a "german worker's" party?
Now, I'm not claiming I know that much on fascism. I only know Hitler apparently did held his promise, or at least partially, at giving back jobs to the germans by militarisation if im not wrong.
Now, we cant exactly have this with the xenos, since everyone already claims liberty is over-militarised...
So I thought it would be a more socialist tendency. Based on hisorical basis that would be my conclusion. but I havent thought much on the unioner side indeed.

In my opinion the Xenos are rather like the Nazi party before they became to power. They were very agressive and would carry out attacks on opposition and the government to get attention and followers. They blamed the government and outsiders for their misfortunes, including making Germany weak and loosing WWI, and was very much the hard done-by worker/street hobo/displaced soldiers' party. They didn't get very political untill the late (I think) 1920s when a Nazi Revolution failed and Hitler was <strike>banned from the server</strike> sent to prison. They didn't get very militaristic either, untill they had control of the populace and thought; "problem = foreginers and war = world - foreginers so war = good". At first when they were in political power they 'created' more jobs by encouraging women not to work and to stay at home and make babies. They did increase on industry though.

But they would have to be the early Nazi party + what DL said:P

But it is quite funny that the Neo-nazis are always at odds with the SA (history buffs would know why)

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[bluntpencil2001]

But it is quite funny that the Neo-nazis are always at odds with the SA (history buffs would know why)

You would be referring to the 'Brownshirts' or Sturm Abteilung, Storm Troopers.

In fact, the SCRA occasionally refer to the SA as Sturm Abteilung.

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