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Offline Drifter84
06-27-2008, 02:39 PM,
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Be great if the finished product could be pinned somewhere for quick reference .

Nice one , Mjolnir , crack on !

"Pressure makes gems, ease makes decay " - Mandalorian Proverb
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Offline mjolnir
06-27-2008, 03:20 PM,
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Thanks, finished one will probably be pinned somewhere... this is however far from finished.

So please actually go trough the list at least for your faction or for the ships that look interesting and post bugs and things you don't agree with.

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Offline Culebra
06-27-2008, 03:28 PM,
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Most of the transports are red to Junkers. Are we moving towards only allowing coorporations to fly the large transports?

Also Junkers are no for Heavy Lifter and Miner both ships seem right up their alley until someone makes us a real Salvage ship. *Looks around for Jinx*

Firefly is no but that seems to be the favorite ship of Junkers and looks "junky".
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Offline Othman
06-27-2008, 04:04 PM,
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Havoc Mk II OK* for Unioners?
Quote:Developed by Ageira with significant BMM participation, the Havoc Mk II is an advanced modification of the first "Havoc", bomber model that was popular in Liberty and Bretonia about 350 years ago. Mk II version features an advanced power array and increased agility compared to other modern bombers. While Ageira initially planned to sell the new Havoc only to Liberty Navy and Bretonia Armed Forces, company executives soon understood that this ship could make a lot of profit on alternative markets.
Rogue GB would be much more RP wise for them instead of the IMG GB provided that Rogues and Unioners are neighbours.

Moreover, I still feel that the Taiidan Bomber should be okay for Unioners. Would GMG halt the production and cut the supply to Freeport 11, based on the reason that Zoners provide Unioners with it? Delta being far away for Unioners is still a feeble argument as GMG are yet enough distant away from Omicron Delta, residing in Sigma-13, but able to deal them with Zoners. It is most likely that Zoners are making the deliveries since they are the only ones who could travel to deal Sirius-Wide, not to mention that they have the Freeport II in Bering, one of the most vital key spots. And as a matter of fact, GMG has fought the military of Rheinland, not its pirates. Who knows how Unioners think of the GMG or how GMG would think of Unioners? Take it into account that Unioners have neither any kind of activity in Sigma-13 nor any kind of serious militaristic agenda concerning the future of the conflict between the Military and GMG presence, which would bother the GMG. They are a bit more lousy thiefs after the revolt to say the least compared to the Hessians or Bundschuh, those who are more focused on the inner politics of their own. In short, they are way far from being a diplomatical organization.

There is not any BS available for Unioners in your list but their ID states otherwise, despite it is limited. Don't get it wrong, I hate the idea of them flying a battleship. Just pointing out the detail.

Is the mining ship meant to be used only by the lawful side?
Quote:The mining corporations and their holding companies built this class of ship to extract ore and other valuable mineral deposits from rock and ice.
Unioners hijacking one or two mining ships of Kruger for anti-commercial purpose doesn't look too impossible. Could be a mid-OK maybe depending on the occasional factors?

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Offline Heartless
06-27-2008, 08:43 PM,
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I think the Order Osiris and the Corsair Osiris is the exact same thing... correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I've been told/seen.


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Offline mjolnir
06-27-2008, 08:46 PM,
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' Wrote:Most of the transports are red to Junkers. Are we moving towards only allowing coorporations to fly the large transports?

Yes... kind of.. you can see that all transports (over 1000 cargo) are yellow to generic Trader ID and red to all pirates.

So junkers should be one of these IMHO, I put them red for now. They have pirate and BW transports as green.

Quote:Also Junkers are no for Heavy Lifter and Miner both ships seem right up their alley until someone makes us a real Salvage ship. *Looks around for Jinx*
Heavy lifter should be green yes.
Miner green or yellow.. since it's more like a huge ship if you want to mine a lot.

Quote:Firefly is no but that seems to be the favorite ship of Junkers and looks "junky".

Firefly infocard says how it's used by smugglers etc.. so it should be yellow or green yes.

Thanks

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' Wrote:Rogue GB would be much more RP wise for them instead of the IMG GB provided that Rogues and Unioners are neighbours.

I'm no quite sure there, maybe it's because I still see Unioners as somehow connected with the Corsairs.
I'm for putting both as yellow for them.

Quote:Havoc Mk II OK* for Unioners?
Moreover, I still feel that the Taiidan Bomber should be okay for Unioners. ...............

--------------- They are a bit more lousy thiefs after the revolt to say the least compared to the Hessians or Bundschuh, those who are more focused on the inner politics of their own. In short, they are way far from being a diplomatical organization.

Havoc MK II is for me somewhere around yellow for unionters. Since it's civilian made by a Liberty corporation and likely to be used by Rebublican shipping as well as other RH companies to protect their shipping. (It's made well before tensions between Rheinland and Liberty started).
From there I can see unioners getting a few pieces.

I'm not really fan of the "Zoner distributing the Taiidan to whole sirius". Placing infocard on the first place and selling location on second I get that zoners sell it on one station, while GMG makes it one their bases , since it's not their ship it feels rather odd that they would distribute it around so much.

GMG is hostile to Bundschuh officialy, kind of implying it's hostile to RH and LWB as well... Unioner are a bit differnt yes.

All in all it should be one step more difficult to get that the Havoc.

Quote:There is not any BS available for Unioners in your list but their ID states otherwise, despite it is limited. Don't get it wrong, I hate the idea of them flying a battleship. Just pointing out the detail.

Yeah I don't have any idea what BS they should use.... only one possible is Battlestar, but I did't feel they have the money to afford one. Not to mention the problems getting it to Bering past the RM.

Quote:Is the mining ship meant to be used only by the lawful side?
Unioners hijacking one or two mining ships of Kruger for anti-commercial purpose doesn't look too impossible. Could be a mid-OK maybe depending on the occasional factors?

Out of all the pirate factions Unioners are indeed closest to getting a ship like that - or to be able to make it themselves. So yellow could be ok.

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Offline Othman
06-27-2008, 08:59 PM,
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Unioners lost their existing ties with Corsairs completely after Igiss' revamp of their infocard and diplomacy. They are now fully neutral, avoiding to pick a side in the Hispanic conflict. Thats why Rogue GB looks more reasonable for me as Rogues have the Dawson at one step away from Pacifica. And the two are meant to get along well after the latest diplomatical revamp. In other areas I agree with you mostly, leaving the Taiidan a bit iffy still though. And I have voted the first option in Dusty Lens' poll, just so you know. Good work and good luck with the rest.

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Offline bluntpencil2001
06-27-2008, 09:04 PM,
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Unlawfuls with mining ships are more likely to be Mollys and Hessians, as these are miner factions, as opposed to Unioners, which is made up of ship-builders. I can see them using the repair ship, though.

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Offline Othman
06-27-2008, 09:08 PM,
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' Wrote:Unlawfuls with mining ships are more likely to be Mollys and Hessians, as these are miner factions, as opposed to Unioners, which is made up of ship-builders. I can see them using the repair ship, though.
Agreed. Not a fan of them to have a lucridious amount of those mining vessels anyway. Maybe just one or two of them, coordinated with an RP event beforehand as they are likely to confront Kruger workers and operatives on their way to Kreuzberg.

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Offline mjolnir
07-01-2008, 10:34 PM,
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