Should a recommended ship list exist?

[Akumabito]

and no i will not your answer.

No surprise there, it's a running theme for factions and admins here. Hard questions are "spam" if you are afraid to answer them.

[Akumabito]

That is an exception. Hardly quantifiable is it.

It is quantifiable. The ol "I stole it" with X number of words over Y number of days.

If it's allowed it should be allowed for everyone with the same effort and time, without the ability of some faction leader or even admin to say "I don't like you so your RP will never be good enough", followed by sanctions that are not warranted.

That said this is a damn solid attempt to make folks lives easier.

And easier still is a list that is black and white, no exceptions.

You can RP within those limits, right?

[Culebra]

It is quantifiable. The ol "I stole it" with X number of words over Y number of days.

If it's allowed it should be allowed for everyone with the same effort and time, without the ability of some faction leader or even admin to say "I don't like you so your RP will never be good enough", followed by sanctions that are not warranted.

This I agree with. If I stole it with alot of backstory works for one it should work for all. This does however lead to issues in the long run...

On a seperate note who is in charge of the Liberty Rogues at the moment?

[Reverend Del]

The "I stole one" story is not quantifiable, it is qualifiable, I can't tell you how many pages of RP you'll need to make it fly, neither can Mjolnir, nor I doubt an Admin, each story would be judged on it's quality, not quantity, of posts.

Secondly on said unrelated note I'm in charge of the Rogues, want a gunboat? Throw it into the diplomatic thread, link in my sig.

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[Dusty Lens]

It is quantifiable. The ol "I stole it" with X number of words over Y number of days.

If it's allowed it should be allowed for everyone with the same effort and time, without the ability of some faction leader or even admin to say "I don't like you so your RP will never be good enough", followed by sanctions that are not warranted.

You wouldn't be referring to rock solid arpee such as this would you?

Kuro walks out, just before he leaves he says "I am sorry, the HMS Churchill is on it's way to Chukogu. The Akumabito project financed it at great cost. To protect their investment they installed the latest control systems, and kept the root override codes that were hardcoded into to the firmware. The controls were locked out and the ship broke mooring on automated controls and headed into the Tau's during mid watch last night. The project lost confidence in the alliance and took the ship they paid for, it's crew will be ferried back unharmed from Chugoku as soon as practical."

With that he steps out the door.

With that, the defection of the Churchill. Easy as pie.

Following was this: ::facepalm 1:: ::facepalm 2:: ::facepalm 3::

Which, following the evolution of things, was followed by this: Whoopsies.

To which we've been led to this:

And easier still is a list that is black and white, no exceptions.

You can RP within those limits, right?

To sum it up in a neat little package: Someone broke your toy so you'll a complete restriction on all flexibility in the system. All in the name of common sense and fairness. Shame on anyone who might draw a correlation between you getting smacked and your newest crusade.

Add something about official factions and the admins here.

P.S. You, sir, are a humbug.

[globalplayer-svk]

No surprise there, it's a running theme for factions and admins here. Hard questions are "spam" if you are afraid to answer them.

akuma, i will not your answer, because i readed thousands of your answers. and you still can not understand ,that is not possible to be bretonia military officier, then escape to blood dragons, from lawfull to unlawfulls, and have the same battleship. or is possible for us navy general to escape to usa enemies with uss missouri? or with some class of aircraft carrier?. i still can nto understand why you think that is ok to have bretonia ship with dragon tag and id, when dragons have their own battleship. and when you say you have rp behind it, all here can make rp for having sabre armed with coladas... or for outcast destroyer in police hands. you know how then end this server? all peopel flying the best in all factions ....
bretonia is bretonia, blood dragons are blood dragons, two really different factions..

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[Dennis Jameson]

Hmm... Perhaps a banning of the forum account while the character account is banned would be for the better..? I mean, no one hadly ever manages to get their ban revoked by posting on the forums...

Akuma, you are just repeating the same TIRED statement over and over again... You have been proven wrong so many times already so i fail to see the point as to why are still posting this garbage.

How about you just open up Word and write a character backround so you can come back in... eight(?) days and act like a productive member of this community instead of a bloody activist.

I am guessing that either Akuma himself, or Nooblet will respond to this with yet another "HELP! I'm being oppressed!" rant. My reply to that post is: Why do you even bother?

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[Xydonus]

"Kuro walks out, just before he leaves he says "I am sorry, the HMS Churchill is on it's way to Chukogu. The Akumabito project financed it at great cost. To protect their investment they installed the latest control systems, and kept the root override codes that were hardcoded into to the firmware. The controls were locked out and the ship broke mooring on automated controls and headed into the Tau's during mid watch last night. The project lost confidence in the alliance and took the ship they paid for, it's crew will be ferried back unharmed from Chugoku as soon as practical."

With that he steps out the door."

Fairly new player here, but not when it comes to role-playing. It is very hard to get into the "Character" that you need to play, takes time and practice and experience. Although I may be a new player, I've had a lot of experience role-playing in actual table games (star wars being very popular) and within computer games so I can bring some of that into Freelancer... But when I saw that quote, and please correct me if I'm wrong but judging by the comments made, HMS Churchill sounds like a cruiser or a battleship of some sort, I couldn't believe the lack of RP gone into it and then the lack of respect for the work that Mjolnir has put into what seems a good start for good RP-control when it comes to ships and factions.

Lack of respect being comments made against Admins and general players who are apparently biased. Fair play to the admins for letting Akuma have his say on this forum... If they where so "Biased" as you claim, would one not think they would remove your comments and put a small edit titled "Removed due to off-topic and bad aggro", I certainly would be tempted to put such comments in place.

Being a new player on Discovery, the major problem I see is the amount of flaming, insults and god knows what else I haven't discovered yet on the forums. Such comments makes an impact within the game itself. Although this is the first one I came across for sometime, an innocent post that was meant for everyone to be entitled to their opinions, but not for someone to lam-bast those they feel are against them and trying to demand answers by putting the same question to a particular individual and hi-jacking the forum for personal slander against others or rants. Gotten so bad nearly everyone I see making a major announcements always puts an end note saying "Please do not flame!"...

So all I can say is, appreciate the work gone into this and I'll be casting my vote but keep personal feelings and feelings of anger off the forums.. period...

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[Akumabito]

The "I stole one" story is not quantifiable, it is qualifiable, I can't tell you how many pages of RP you'll need to make it fly, neither can Mjolnir, nor I doubt an Admin, each story would be judged on it's quality, not quantity, of posts.

That's the main issue, what makes a "quality of post"? How friendly you are with the faction leader who is the arbitrator of the ships?

There is no reason to justify players having oorp ships on anything other than quantifiable metrics, otherwise it's a whole lot of iffy complexity, subject to a great deal of unfairness, in order to allow a select few to have some oorp ships.

Why isn't black and white, this ID allows this ship better?

This I agree with. If I stole it with alot of backstory works for one it should work for all. This does however lead to issues in the long run...

Which is why it shouldn't exist at all, and a simple "go/no-go" list made.

This ID = these ships and these weapons, no exceptions.

It's fair across the board.

[bluntpencil2001]

Give it up. Please. You're digging a deeper hole than the one left by the rock that killed the dinosaurs.

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