Admin Notice: Player Owned Bases

[JaaY]

Bring them back, only with SRP requirements this time.

Either with SRP or for official factions only.

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[Thyrzul]

Turn Barges into mobile bases. Same thing as PoBs, it would just have a limited docking capacity (like a doubled docking module), ability to move slowly (maybe could made even slower than what Barges are currently), and most importantly, it would require at least one player to be online at all times when logged in.

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[Tyler]

That's why I like Golden Coin. That's badass PoB with most sense I know, consistent, most consequent one. It guards backdoor JH and gets taxes for Mollys. It makes stuff for them.

I agree 100% with the GC being a very good example of a proper RP'd and used base, HOWEVER I hate the fact that ever since it got there Dublin pretty much died out. Most Corsairs are just way too lazy to travel +2 systems extra to reach the rich gold grounds and thus avoiding the GC.

Dublin is dead, which is such a shame considering it was one of the best alive and kicking systems in .85.

[Edit] And oh, ever since the base got dumped at its location mostly what I've heard/seen in the Molly chat and so on was: "log log log GC needs supplies", coming back to my original point that pretty much every (exception of 1, perhaps 2) faction has been just pre-occupied with their POB and disregarding the actual agenda, that of RP, encounters, piracy, events you name it....

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[DarthBindo]

That's why I like Golden Coin. That's badass PoB with most sense I know, consistent, most consequent one. It guards backdoor JH and gets taxes for Mollys. It makes stuff for them.

I agree 100% with the GC being a very good example of a proper RP'd and used base, HOWEVER I hate the fact that ever since it got there Dublin pretty much died out. Most Corsairs are just way too lazy to travel +2 systems extra to reach the rich gold grounds and thus avoiding the GC.

Dublin is dead, which is such a shame considering it was one of the best alive and kicking systems in .85.

[Edit] And oh, ever since the base got dumped at its location mostly what I've heard/seen in the Molly chat and so on was: "log log log GC needs supplies", coming back to my original point that pretty much every (exception of 1, perhaps 2) faction has been just pre-occupied with their POB and disregarding the actual agenda, that of RP, encounters, piracy, events you name it....

Dublin is dead beacuse of a lack of miners.
It's the miners that drive both Molly and Corsair activity, not them driving each other.

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gone four years, first day back: Zoners still getting shot in Theta :|

[razorviper]

Its now that the bases are gone, I actually feel the fun in game. More players are getting involved in real activities , than just busy supplying bases. One good example is: When I needed H-3 , I would just pick them up from the two bases outside Miura or Shuri base. Now that the bases are gone, today I looked up for a miner and had a bit of RP with him as well. This was much much better. 'Active' Mining activities will be boosted . When I am flying around with my miner, there is a better chance that someone is going to need me, than when we had PoBs ^^.
I am not saying to eliminate the bases for ever. However, bring back only those bases that had good reputation of SRP.
Also we are going to see a hike in prices of the cloaks and modules and scanners etc as they cannot be manufactured anymore.
1 bil ~~ cloak mk2 adv. **LOL**

[Tyler]

Dublin is dead beacuse of a lack of miners.
It's the miners that drive both Molly and Corsair activity, not them driving each other.

True enough, yet, I've seen miners (not as often as before, yes, but still) in Dublin, even in .86. But for 'sairs to start pirating on "contested' grounds (Dublin) they'd have to come/get there. Which did not happen.

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[Highland Laddie]

Several responses to this:

No honestly. All the whiners that do not agree are those not contributing to RP anyway. Admit it to yourself. And go pick up a bloody dictionary too.

Wrong! And paired with:

...coming back to my original point that pretty much every (exception of 1, perhaps 2) faction has been just pre-occupied with their POB and disregarding the actual agenda, that of RP, encounters, piracy, events you name it....

I'd gladly name Gateway as an exception, as well as several others. Our particular PoB was designed and intended as a trading hub; something the server DOES need to help spurn a more dynamic economy, as well as give us Shipping Company factions (Bowex, Gateway, Samura, USI, RepEx, etc.) something to actually DO. And it certainly didn't stop us from doing other things, like interacting with miners, providing work for escorts, and attacking rival shippers who crossed our path.

With Bases gone...you've basically killed over 75% of our intended RP - so now instead of shipping orders for customers, we're basically just gonna haul goods for ourselves for cash (especially since most players/factions like IMG, BMM, DSE actually prefer to haul their own ores), and probably just use that money to finance pews.

If Bases are gonna be SRP-only from here out....I'm putting my request in now. Otherwise....I'm sure several of us would like a refund on our 1B+ investment.

[sindroms]

If that killed 75% of your RP, then what the hell was your faction doing BEFORE pobs were introduced.

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[Redon]

That's why I like Golden Coin. That's badass PoB with most sense I know, consistent, most consequent one. It guards backdoor JH and gets taxes for Mollys. It makes stuff for them.

I agree 100% with the GC being a very good example of a proper RP'd and used base, HOWEVER I hate the fact that ever since it got there Dublin pretty much died out. Most Corsairs are just way too lazy to travel +2 systems extra to reach the rich gold grounds and thus avoiding the GC.

Dublin is dead, which is such a shame considering it was one of the best alive and kicking systems in .85.

I remember its construction, which went down something like this: "We're just a bunch of Zoners, don't mind us building our still vulnerable casino. Just kidding, we're actually Mollys and these platforms are now hostile!"
While it was surely amusing, I wouldn't go as far as calling it a "very good example of a proper RP'd base". The only reason it still exists is that the gameplay mechanics of POBs make it invulnerable, and the manner in which you conveniently skipped the only phase where something could have been done about it.

That aside, the base certainly doesn't lack RP in the way it was operated ever since. Yet I think it's a pity what it has done to Dublin and interactions between Bretonia and Gran Canaria. Dublin still has the potential to be an activity hub. I wonder what would happen to Tau-23 if someone slapped an angry playerbase on one of its jumpholes.

[Edit] And oh, ever since the base got dumped at its location mostly what I've heard/seen in the Molly chat and so on was: "log log log GC needs supplies", coming back to my original point that pretty much every (exception of 1, perhaps 2) faction has been just pre-occupied with their POB and disregarding the actual agenda, that of RP, encounters, piracy, events you name it....

I've noticed this in other factions as well, the supplying takes a lot of effort even from a whole faction, and seems to leave players less time and motivation to do what a faction should actually be doing.
It's part of the reason why I've completely stopped caring about POBs. I welcome this break, and I'm excited to see what the server community can come up with when they're not busy supplying 70 bases every day.

Dublin is dead beacuse of a lack of miners.
It's the miners that drive both Molly and Corsair activity, not them driving each other.

I agree that miners are responsible for a big part of the system's activity. I haven't mined in a long time because I find shooting rocks very boring. Perhaps it is worth noting that I notice less and less enthusiasm from the BMM members when someone brings up mining in Dublin, because more often than not it seems to lead to them being blown up with little RP, or otherwise frustrating outcomes.

[Gateway Shipping Inc]

If that killed 75% of your RP, then what the hell was your faction doing BEFORE pobs were introduced.

That's irrelevant to the point that many like us have put time, money and effort into PoBs and as such are a core part of RP. Something that must be protected and maintained.

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