Anyone ever thought that Microsoft never planned for Zoners to be this powerful? That's just the thing. Zoners are not supposed to have a fleet. They shouldn't. There's no reason. Fleets indicate war. Zoners shouldn't pose a threat. They just have bases where no one else wants to be and they act as Gas & Go's in the borders. Maybe you should go back to that.
"THE HULL HAS BEEN BREACHED AND THESCIENCEIS LEAKING OUT!"
My conception of Zoners was laid our pretty heavily last night, I might post the logs. But one of my thoughts was that they were a representation of the anti-houses, or rather the ideals that the houses didn't embody.
' Wrote:Anyone ever thought that Microsoft never planned for Zoners to be this powerful? That's just the thing. Zoners are not supposed to have a fleet. They shouldn't. There's no reason. Fleets indicate war. Zoners shouldn't pose a threat. They just have bases where no one else wants to be and they act as Gas & Go's in the borders. Maybe you should go back to that.
Then disband NTF because microsoft never considerd it.
' Wrote:Then disband NTF because microsoft never considerd it.
I don't lead it.
I'm just saying that things have strayed away. The Noms are back, there's Gallia, there's the BHG waging war for alien weapons, and the Outcasts and Corsairs have become houses. There's too much power. Just too much. And frankly, we don't know what to do with all this power. Zoners are just reserving it. That's what makes them a threat. You don't just build a bunch of carriers and super-massive juggernauts and still retain neutrality. People get paranoid. They plot.
But the true issue with Zoners in Disco is this: It's a unified entity and it's just too damn powerful. And all that power is doing nothing. It's just there. Watching. Waiting.
"THE HULL HAS BEEN BREACHED AND THESCIENCEIS LEAKING OUT!"
I'm just saying that things have strayed away. The Noms are back, there's Gallia, there's the BHG waging war for alien weapons, and the Outcasts and Corsairs have become houses. There's too much power. Just too much. And frankly, we don't know what to do with all this power. Zoners are just reserving it. That's what makes them a threat. You don't just build a bunch of carriers and super-massive juggernauts and still retain neutrality. People get paranoid. They plot.
But the true issue with Zoners in Disco is this: It's a unified entity and it's just too damn powerful. And all that power is doing nothing. It's just there. Watching. Waiting.
Why should everyoen but Zoners change ?
Oh, right, cause we're not a PvP based faction.....
' Wrote:Why should everyoen but Zoners change ?
Oh, right, cause we're not a PvP based faction.....
If I had my way, we'd be playing Vanilla with the new beefed up Vanilla ships. The plot worked back then. It would actually be fun to RP the Nom war and that political strife.
I'm rather dissatisfied with what everything has become. I hate how Rheinland is not oppressive, that Liberty is being a massive douche and shoving its junk down everyone's throats, how the Rogues have become a powerhouse that no longer needs funding, how the BHG are focusing on a rather frivolous war, how the Hessians are communists....the list goes on and on and on. I'm just rather disappointed with a lot of changes. And now you all ask...Why do I stay here? Want to know why?
I like spaceships. I like spaceship games. I like roleplaying. I like roleplaying spaceship games. So you know what? I deal with it. I do what I want/have to in my factions as seen fit. Only way we can deal with it. Nothing will change. So we whine. And that's all we can do.
"THE HULL HAS BEEN BREACHED AND THESCIENCEIS LEAKING OUT!"
Microsoft didn't intend alot of things that now exist in Disco. But the thing is, is that the RP of the ZA has evolved from where the Zoners were. It's like how the many different RP's have evolved from where the original game was. Why must Zoners be the only ones stuck in the times? Why can they not come together and evolved in the fashion that they have? I mean, it didn't start with the ZA either. The ZA is what came up from the ashes of the CoZ... which was around before this.
And every single ship within the Zoner fleet has a background now that is very sound.
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I think one of the real issues is that people feel that they can't be their own Zoner with the ZA in place, as in it sets the precedent for how they should play.