POB Restoration; Fair or Not?

[Implosion]

Before you continue, as far as I was told, the base belonged properly to Laz and was not actually sabotage and destroyed, but rather Laz and Erato got to sick and tired of simply supplying it on their own and, if I recall correctly, told this to Lyth several times and eventually the two removed the gear off it and put it away and let the base die, simply because it was to much of a hassle to up keep

Odd, that doesn't really match what Laz told me. I mean, he has no reason to lie to me since he is banned at the moment and has nothing to gain or lose.
As per his explanation, the base died with ALL it's gear on it. No one removed anything.
Further more, neither of that gear is anywhere to be found on the Core banks/ships/accounts
So whatever gear you're talking about, it's not there.

Heck, I recall at one point Lyth AND Laz both asking the Order to go in and destroy Invicta because it was to much of a problem for them to up keep anyways.

Both of them told me they never said such a thing.
It's your word against theirs.
I can't be the judge of who's lying and who's not. I don't know you three good enough to decide.

So before you think about restoring it, please do ask around as to why it was originally destroyed and you'll discover that its location to supply it and the materials needed for the mods were so far away, that it was inconceivable to keep Invicta up so it was, formost, even by Core members, destroyed at it was to much of a problem to supply and keep up

I'll tell you the exact reason that base blew up.
Lyth got banhammered. If he didn't get banned, the Core would still have Invicta. The base blowing up was a direct result of that.

Minor edit: The base was completely stripped yet it was never sieged, I'm sure Wesker can remember even how on TS, sometimes it was noted, that, shockingly, the dying base was still standing by even me, Laz and other people. While it was, yes, stripped, the base itself slowly died off as for the simple fact that me, Erato and Laz didn't feel the need to remove the shield fuel and repair stuff as it would of just taken forever

2nd Edit: Yes, 5000 crew were added but I can confirm that this was not by me, Laz, Lyth or anyone in the Core as I was PERSONALLY called in to help keep the base up after that. The base itself, while yes, did have 5k crew at one point, was quickly removed and sold off. The base itself did die of its own starvation but not from crew, it died simply because no one could be bugged to supply a base in the butt end of nowhere.

Yes, the crew were placed there by the very man who gave away all the Core shareds. How is that not part of the plan to strip the Core of everything it ever had?

Now remember, this is before Rho linked to the Sigma's and Core ships got attacked without mercy. This made practically supplying the base not only infeasible, but also impossible when the stuff you need for it to survive was not even in the Omicrons or close and the upgrade stuff was no where even close. At the end the base was, yes, stripped, but this is before Laz got banned, it was stripped and I could ask Laz or Erato as to why and they'd tell you the same. Erato was the first to get tired of it, followed by me then Laz so we just gave up and let the damn thing eventually die then just stay up all hours of the night to grind to keep a Core 3 base alive

Are you trying to say Laz was supplying the base after he was banned?

As for resources:
Water - Alabama Shiyard - 180
Synth Paste - Durban - 1866
Oxygen - Alabama Shipyard -135
Oxygen - Durban Station - 135
Reinforced Alloy - Alabama Shipyard - 250

Doesn't look that far away to me.

Last edit: Implosion, if you got proof that is from Lyth or Laz (I'm very much aware of who you ask for this stuff) about as to why the base was destroyed and they gave you something else as you sent, then you should also be informed that the base itself, as the admin provided, died 5 days AFTER Laz was banned, basically meaning that the proof you got from them as well is invalid. As I kindly provided above, the base was stripped around April I think and left with the building supplies on it. Yes 5k crew were added in hopes of speeding up the bases death which it indeed did do for us. There was no hostile intent or anything else other then the bases owner, who funny enough was Laz himself, the LEADER OF THE CORE'S TRADE SQUAD at that time, decided to nuke the base then keep it around.

Who else would I ask for it? Those were the main people involved at the time...

I do hope you kept in mind, since the base was Laz and not actually Core's, he had more free will to do with the base that he wanted to, the only other person with admin access to the base was Lyth, other wise the base was indeed fully Laz's and not the Core's, whoever told you otherwise is wrong. I get that, yes, it had a cloaking facility on it and you used it to supply the Core with money and stuff, but the base, never the less, was nuked.

That's like saying an airplane is owned by the government and it has no use for the air force of that country.
Invicta was an asset to both Core| and indie Core members.

Oh and I should add, the Order did locate the base when it was dying, I did personally when we did attack Rho like, back in July or something, but we never did siege it once. Yes we had the plan to but we never actually did.

Because it died on it's own, obviously.

The base, at the end was destroyed by its owner, Laz, who didn't wish any longer to keep it alive as it was to much of a problem for us to handle. Laz even said SEVERAL times on TS that Invicta was just a massive problem and I still recall where him and Erato were awake for hours on end to keep it alive.

It fell victim to Laz because he nuked everything that Core had and admits to doing it.

So there you go, there's your real reason

And you've provided 0 evidence to back it up.
Furthermore, @Hannibal , how come you agree rather quick with what @Shizune said despite the countless confessions of the people who were behind the whole thing.
I realize Lyth is banned, but how come you remembered that and muted him on Discord after he started mentioning this topic?
Banned people shouldn't have been able to speak in the first place.
Now's lets also break down what you said on Discord.

Hannibal - Yesterday at 0:23
L: Are you certain there was only 300 crew on it?
H: yes

Yet, there's no backup, so no one and nothing can prove you wrong.
EDIT:I was just reminded, that, 300 is under the limit, so the base won't repair.

L: We only really got our shared ships back a month ago. Wesker was just very bad at getting things organized and handing them out again.
H: what the *BLEEEEEP* is so hard dragging and droping out a file into a skype window? cream_cat:

Can't argue there.

L: We had no intention of letting Invicta go.
H: i'm only interested if you had any intention of supplying it(the faction), but if you would you wouldn't need to build another one now

I mean what? How "not letting go" does not automatically exclude "not having the intention to supply it" ?

L: The base died because I was banned.
H: there's some ego displayed there.. unfortunately pobs are not meant to be mantained by one single person, if that was the case(you or laz?)

Main reason, but not the only one.
We're back to the point that it's direct result of Lyth getting banned, this allowed Laz to go crazy with Core stuff and nuke it all.
Now, 6 months later, I ask for a hand in restoring the thing, so we can speed things up a bit, you know.

Now, however, I'm rather certain we won't get that base restored, that's a fact.
The worst thing that can happen is, I get punished for trying to restore something that was intentionally destroyed with the ideas of causing harm to the Core|
Further more, the only reason I went to do it was because another base got restored. Elephant in the room right there.
No one here seems to be saying why either, which was the original point of this thread, before it got slightly derailed.
But I figured, I should answer the questions asked and present all the stuff I have managed to gather regarding Invicta. I've annoyed and pestered people on skype, discord and in this thread, which of course, wasn't intentional but there was no other way, since it was so long ago.