Tired of the confusion!

[ryoken]

Designed by the Liberty Rogues, the Pirate Transport is one of the few transport-class vessels available for unlawful population of Sirius(WHERE DOES IT SAY SHIP IS AVAILABLE ONLY FOR UNLAWFUL FACTIONS?). This ship is too distincitive to be used for smuggling in areas heavily patrolled by police and military(THIS POST EVEN SAYS ITS DIFFICULT TO SMUGGLE USING THIS SHIP - WHY WOULD I GO AGAINST THE ADVICE HERE? BESIDES I DONT WANT TO SMUGGLE USING THIS SHIP). However, the Transport is great choice for smugglers carrying goods from one pirate base to another using dangerous and lengthy routes. Heavy armor and advanced equipment come in handy if the ship is threatened by hostile pirates and bounty hunters alike. SO DID I INTERPRET THINGS WRONG HIELOR _ YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY SO SMART AND A WIKI EXPERT.

NO WHERE DOES IT SAY TO BE USED BY UNLAWFUL FACTIONS ONLY. I bought it because it has a crago capacity of 4300 - THE MAX ALLOWED BY THE JUNKER ID. where on the junker id does it say junkers must be and conduct only unlawful actions. if the pirate transport is so wrong to be using them someone make a ship that has 4300 cargo that doesnt tick off all of the military/police characters! would folks rather i use a bretonian shire as a junker to haul my goods? If so then i will do that - i just want to left alone to do my trade runs LEGALLY!! :rtfm:

All the military factions are lazy. Thats why they all made pirate trans,and pirate train illegal in house space. So they can just yell Illegal ship.PEW PEW instead of actually doing their jobs,and scanning it. Also the same reason they FR5 every smuggler,or Embargo breaker they find. Why should they actually have to "chase" a potential smuggler,and scan them?
It is just being lazy.They post it somewhere that 90% of people will probly never read like THEIR OWN MESSAGE DUMPS and then can shoot you saying it is illegal,and was posted for all to see.
I have said it before,and will say it again. This forum needs a section where all faction laws/rules/regulations and so on are posted in one place.
This way new, newish,and even veteran players can scan it time to time,and see what rules/laws are,and what has been changed from vanila Freelancer.
I have lawful chars,and whenever a character i have not seen before,and is probly newish breaks a FACTION law (not vanila) i always let them be,and just advise them. I see no reason to enforce some stupid laws a Lazy lawful faction comes up with so they can just PvP more.

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[SnakThree]

Ryoken, not again please?
If you feel so negative about DiscoGC just leave us. Your remarks are insulting majority of players. There are not so many FR5's. And those which passes are legit RP-wise.
Your arguments are biased and self-centered, never ever with a proof to strenghten it.
I myself saw your RP as a caught smuggling Junker. That was crap load of RP. Hiding behind rules, going for PvP, disregarding and insulting inRP consequences and those who applied it. If you want to change DiscoGC, start with yourself.

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[ryoken]

Ryoken, not again please?

I myself saw your RP as a caught smuggling Junker. That was crap load of RP. Hiding behind rules, going for PvP, disregarding and insulting inRP consequences and those who applied it.

Oh really? I got a sanction for launching with an embargo goods,and docked. Not smuggling. Faction power gaming,which is BS. I have not been "caught" smuggling entire time you have been on this server. So please PLEASE show me what the hell your talking about.

So i got one for you. Stop Trolling every reply i post. Cause no one gives a rats butt of your oppinions either.

PS. Respond,and troll more here if you wish.I will stay on topic unlike yourself from this point on.

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[Negatar]

I do appreciate your sentiments Ryoken. I appreciate it partner! ;)

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[Prysin]

IF YOU CANT REMEMBER THE LAWS OF THE HOUSE YOUR POLICING IN, THEN STOP TRYING TO UPHOLD THE LAW IN THAT HOUSE.

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[Negatar]

If you are too lazy to put the laws in one easy to find spot then stop making them up. I can make simple comments and suggestions too! :wacko:

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[Veygaar]

No need for 1up trolling folks. Although your replies have legitimate points, please try to say them without aggression perhaps?

Anyways...

All the military factions are lazy. Thats why they all made pirate trans,and pirate train illegal in house space. So they can just yell Illegal ship.PEW PEW instead of actually doing their jobs,and scanning it. Also the same reason they FR5 every smuggler,or Embargo breaker they find. Why should they actually have to "chase" a potential smuggler,and scan them?
It is just being lazy.They post it somewhere that 90% of people will probly never read like THEIR OWN MESSAGE DUMPS and then can shoot you saying it is illegal,and was posted for all to see.
I have said it before,and will say it again. This forum needs a section where all faction laws/rules/regulations and so on are posted in one place.
This way new, newish,and even veteran players can scan it time to time,and see what rules/laws are,and what has been changed from vanila Freelancer.
I have lawful chars,and whenever a character i have not seen before,and is probly newish breaks a FACTION law (not vanila) i always let them be,and just advise them. I see no reason to enforce some stupid laws a Lazy lawful faction comes up with so they can just PvP more.

I actually agree with this mate. For the most part.

If there could be 1 accurate page (preferably on the wiki cause that's what most new folks use) of each houses/factions legal/illegal goods/ships/whatever..... I and many others would LUV that...

and we all know:

LUV
IS
A
POWERFUL
THINGY

Cheers

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Veygaar for Admin Moderator 2013!!!

[Hielor]

where on the junker id does it say junkers must be and conduct only unlawful actions.

It doesn't say that, but if you do something unlawful and get caught you have to face the (in-RP) consequences.

if the pirate transport is so wrong to be using them someone make a ship that has 4300 cargo that doesnt tick off all of the military/police characters! would folks rather i use a bretonian shire as a junker to haul my goods? If so then i will do that - i just want to left alone to do my trade runs LEGALLY!! :rtfm:

Given how much Junkers are hated inRP, if you want to be "left alone" during your trade runs you've picked the wrong faction.

If you want to do your trade runs "LEGALLY!!" you need to be familiar with the laws. It's as simple as that. If you can't be arsed to spend five minutes reading the laws for whatever house you're going to be trading through, then you deserve every encounter with the lawfuls that you get.

[Negatar]

Couldnt defend your statements regarding the pirate transport info on wiki could you Hielor? Sad man...:nono:

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[Hielor]

Couldnt defend your statements regarding the pirate transport info on wiki could you Hielor? Sad man...:nono:

Wait what? Defend my statements? I never said anything about the ship's info on the wiki, you did. And I ignored all of your caps-lock nonsense because it was irrelevant and doesn't really say anything, but here you go:

Designed by the Liberty Rogues, the Pirate Transport is one of the few transport-class vessels available for unlawful population of Sirius(WHERE DOES IT SAY SHIP IS AVAILABLE ONLY FOR UNLAWFUL FACTIONS?).

Nowhere. The ship can be used by anyone. But guess what? If the laws of the house that you're in say that it's illegal to use the ship, then you're breaking the law by using it, and you've just become an unlawful.

This ship is too distincitive to be used for smuggling in areas heavily patrolled by police and military(THIS POST EVEN SAYS ITS DIFFICULT TO SMUGGLE USING THIS SHIP - WHY WOULD I GO AGAINST THE ADVICE HERE? BESIDES I DONT WANT TO SMUGGLE USING THIS SHIP).

Except that you kind of *did* go against the advice there, by using the ship in areas heavily patrolled by police and military.

It doesn't matter what you want to do with the ship. If the laws say that it's illegal to use the ship, it's illegal to use the ship.

However, the Transport is great choice for smugglers carrying goods from one pirate base to another using dangerous and lengthy routes. Heavy armor and advanced equipment come in handy if the ship is threatened by hostile pirates and bounty hunters alike. SO DID I INTERPRET THINGS WRONG HIELOR _ YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY SO SMART AND A WIKI EXPERT.

Why thank you. No, you seem to have interpreted things correctly. You are free to use the pirate transport, just like you're free to carry cardamine. If you get caught breaking the law though, well...yeah.

NO WHERE DOES IT SAY TO BE USED BY UNLAWFUL FACTIONS ONLY.

Again, you're right. But you seem to be confusing two issues here--server rules, which are OORP, and house laws, which are inRP.

The server rules say that you're free to use the Pirate Transport. The server rules also say that you're free to carry cardamine.

However, house laws for several houses say that both of these activities are illegal. You won't get banned or sanctioned for doing them, you'll just face inRP consequences.