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Offline BloodTree
02-22-2013, 05:19 PM,
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(02-22-2013, 05:12 PM)Ayem Wrote:
(02-22-2013, 04:54 PM)BloodTree Wrote: It`s same for outcast they can`t gank zoner.
And why make up things witch are against server rules.
Here the point are you authorize to do what ever you want doing RP!

You desecrated the holy place of the Outcasts. You harvested the Spirits for your unspeakable experiments and high cuisine meals!

You were a Japanese whaling ship, and we were Greenpeace, fighting alongside the dolphins and whales.

Except this Greenpeace has military hardware, and the dolphins have lasers strapped to their heads.

Where did you find that omicron 99 is holy place for outcast?

Denialism is choosing to deny reality as a way to avoid an uncomfortable truth.
Offline BloodTree
02-22-2013, 05:31 PM,
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Why there no single NPC who is outcast and flying in omicron 99 and shooting other?

Denialism is choosing to deny reality as a way to avoid an uncomfortable truth.
Offline Ayem
02-22-2013, 05:31 PM,
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(02-22-2013, 05:19 PM)BloodTree Wrote:
(02-22-2013, 05:12 PM)Ayem Wrote:
(02-22-2013, 04:54 PM)BloodTree Wrote: It`s same for outcast they can`t gank zoner.
And why make up things witch are against server rules.
Here the point are you authorize to do what ever you want doing RP!

You desecrated the holy place of the Outcasts. You harvested the Spirits for your unspeakable experiments and high cuisine meals!

You were a Japanese whaling ship, and we were Greenpeace, fighting alongside the dolphins and whales.

Except this Greenpeace has military hardware, and the dolphins have lasers strapped to their heads.

Where did you find that omicron 99 is holy place for outcast?

It's been the case since Vanilla that Omicron 90 is the threshold of the "spirits", and that there and beyond is somehow sacred. This is why you see all those outcast fighter wrecks around the Omicron 90 hole in Omicron Alpha. Those are coffins for dead pilots, put to rest under the protection of the spirits.

All of this information can be found in the rumours and infocards in Outcast bases, which have, as I said, existed since the original Freelancer build.

For as long as I have played on this server, which is many years now, Outcasts and Nomads have been at peace, and helped each other at times. (Mostly it's Outcasts going to help Nomads, rather than the other way around. Which is as it should be, I think.)

Alpha in particular has been a place where the Nomad players (the "Keepers." in those days) could go for peaceful roleplay, where they could relax safe in the knowledge no-one was about to shoot them. That is very rare for a Nomad player. They're on edge almost everywhere else in Sirius, because everyone else is ostensibly hostile to them.

Because of this relationship the bond between Nomads and Outcasts as a faction developed to be more familiar and friendly than the mystical reverence in the rumours and infocards.

I often play very reverent Outcasts.

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Offline BloodTree
02-22-2013, 05:35 PM,
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Why any Nomad NPC is shooting any outcast player?

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Offline Vrabcek
02-22-2013, 05:37 PM,
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(02-22-2013, 05:31 PM)BloodTree Wrote: Why there no single NPC who is outcast and flying in omicron 99 and shooting other?

(02-22-2013, 01:49 PM)BloodTree Wrote: In my story I was Hunting nomad NPC with zoner BS

I can't see zoner npcs in omicron 99 either...

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Offline Nosferath
02-22-2013, 05:37 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-22-2013, 05:39 PM by Nosferath.)
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(02-22-2013, 05:18 PM)BloodTree Wrote: Why there is nothing about outcast/nomad allies on ID rules?
There is only one big confuse about it.
Still in story thous outcast who was think`ed that nomads are gods do they was in same side and going to gank other?
ID's only contain certain restrictions, and in some cases, restrict behaviors. ID can't contain all the possible stuff you can do. If we used that logic, you couldn't enter nomad space with a zoner ID because the ID doesn't say "Can enter nomad space" As for the second question, I don't understand you.

(02-22-2013, 05:19 PM)BloodTree Wrote: Where did you find that omicron 99 is holy place for outcast?
http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=8584 You can find some very interesting things if you take the time to check the forums.

(02-22-2013, 05:31 PM)BloodTree Wrote: Why there no single NPC who is outcast and flying in omicron 99 and shooting other?
Because it's Nomad territory. Outcasts can't enter either, unless needed in order to destroy intruders, or if invited by nomads.

And about Nomad npcs shooting Outcasts, it's because Outcasts are not well received in Nomad lands either, and they have nomads hostile on their reps (which does not mean that we are enemies)

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Offline BloodTree
02-22-2013, 05:39 PM,
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(02-22-2013, 05:37 PM)Vrabcek Wrote:
(02-22-2013, 05:31 PM)BloodTree Wrote: Why there no single NPC who is outcast and flying in omicron 99 and shooting other?

(02-22-2013, 01:49 PM)BloodTree Wrote: In my story I was Hunting nomad NPC with zoner BS

I can't see zoner npcs in omicron 99 either...

There is no reason of RP why someone hunting nomads for bs remains.
Not only zoner players do that.

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Offline Lonely Werewolf
02-22-2013, 05:40 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-22-2013, 05:41 PM by Lonely Werewolf.)
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Firstly thanks Jammi for your clarifying up on parts of Outcasts relationship with Nomads, that's me better informed. We learn something everyday eh. Smile

(02-22-2013, 05:04 PM)BloodTree Wrote: How can distinguish outcast who is simple and who is nomad friend?
And If he is nomad friend anyone can shoot him?

Well Outcasts are friendly with Nomads, as dictated by Official Outcast Faction (101st), so you should assume that all Outcasts are friendly with Nomads. As for whether any particular player knows that and plays by that, well if you saw Nomad and Outcasts players in the same group, that'd be a big giveaway, but I'd recommend you just play safe and that all Outcasts you meet will defend Nomads.
"If you prepare for the worst, then you'll easily be able to deal with what actually happens"

And no, you can't just shoot someone because they are friendly with someone. RP permitting there might be circumstances where you can attack someone for assisting an enemy, eg Police/Navy shooting someone who assists a pirate by giving them bots etc (but that would come under assisting pirates in their relavent sections of "Laws of Sirius". It's rare but that's the best example I can think of.

(02-22-2013, 05:18 PM)BloodTree Wrote: Why there is nothing about outcast/nomad allies on ID rules?
There is only one big confuse about it.
Still in story thous outcast who was think`ed that nomads are gods do they was in same side and going to gank other?

Well why should there be something in their ID explicity saying that they are friendly with a particular faction. You can find out the official stance of of an ID towards an NPC faction through the Official Faction Diplomacy parts of their own sub forums I'm sure. Most are common sense, but perhaps a few like this case you woulnd't have thought of. Well live with it, you know now and so you are informed for the future.

As for the last line I don't understand what your trying to say I'm afraid, so I can't elobrate on it.
Offline Vrabcek
02-22-2013, 05:41 PM,
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(02-22-2013, 05:39 PM)BloodTree Wrote:
(02-22-2013, 05:37 PM)Vrabcek Wrote:
(02-22-2013, 05:31 PM)BloodTree Wrote: Why there no single NPC who is outcast and flying in omicron 99 and shooting other?

(02-22-2013, 01:49 PM)BloodTree Wrote: In my story I was Hunting nomad NPC with zoner BS

I can't see zoner npcs in omicron 99 either...

There is no reason of RP why someone hunting nomads for bs remains.
Not only zoner players do that.

Then be happy that your out of roleplay behavior is treat by iRP actions.

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Offline Anomander
02-22-2013, 05:42 PM,
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@BloodTree - jezz stop trolling and also stop mixing inRP informations, RP rules with server rules
stop gainsay basics of RP.

ID contain basic informations, basic outlines what You can or cannot do
but not all since there is need some room for Role Play.

OC are in good terms with Nomads, there were and always will be - You do not want make them angry or shoot You? Do not enter restricted/patroled zones by them.
If you are not interested in RP and only pew-pew then - as has already been mentioned - leave RP server
and create Your own, or join some non-RP or relaxed-RP one.

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