when I see it I will belive it and yes its true if you are alone you will die more unlawful people do group up and what happens the lawfuls start to bring out cap ships to take us on. I dont mean gunboat caps either im talking cruisers and such.
' Wrote:when I see it I will belive it and yes its true if you are alone you will die more unlawful people do group up and what happens the lawfuls start to bring out cap ships to take us on. I dont mean gunboat caps either im talking cruisers and such.
Then you bring bombers. We do it all the time, a cruiser, dreadnought, or BH GS flock is no match for a few bombers. Seriously, we've proved this again and again, flying a heavy capital ship against a group that has the slightest idea what they're doing is suicide, you will die first and quickly without fail.
' Wrote:Then you bring bombers. We do it all the time, a cruiser, dreadnought, or BH GS flock is no match for a few bombers. Seriously, we've proved this again and again, flying a heavy capital ship against a group that has the slightest idea what they're doing is suicide, you will die first and quickly without fail.
Its true, I have seen this happen many many times, Capships arent as great as they are made out to be. But most of the capwhore victims dont know the countermeasure. and so the cycle repeats itself.
Ok to lawfuls:
At least word before engagement is must have. You cant just rush in and PEW PEW bad rogue. You taunt him, or offer him to pay fine for piracy or face trial.. Whatever is getting job done. You can still win fight just as easy with or without that message you send.
I mean, look at (Gaia) players, we shout poems before and in fight. Every normal player group sends few messages before engagements. You dont loose anything with it... Ok, maybe you give 5 secs of life to enemy. Thats it
Because if you drop out of lane with guns blazing, that is PVP whoring, and it is example of extremely bad roleplay. Do not do it.
To unlawfuls:
Since you are seen as scum in most "civilized" systems, police and navy came to conclusion that you are to be shoot at sight. I know that is wrong, but you have to adjust to it, and at least try to drag them in role play. Taunt them, try to make them see your side of things, and so on.
//not intended as flame. Try to act on it, its only way to solve this problem.
Quote:Because if you drop out of lane with guns blazing, that is PVP whoring, and it is example of extremely bad roleplay. Do not do it.
Just a question, tell me why is that bad roleplay? From what I can see, that is exactly the RP you should be doing when a lawful encounters a criminal or vice versa. It is ooRP to start chatting up the criminal and exchanging pointless insults. People only do that to satisfy others who'd whine about getting killed without "RP", when in fact this "RP" they demand is in common sense, ooRP. I do it as well, I randomly insult a criminal or say I'm engaging or whatever before, but sometimes I don't, and when someone whines about it I laugh at them. Its more proper in RP to do what I'm doing, than what they demand. In RP my char would be what you call a pure example of a pvp whore, he wants to kill all pirates, everywhere he can, all the time. But that is his RP story, does that make him ooRP? During my time online for example on LN, I RP all the time in group chat, everyone who's ever seen me can confirm that. With criminals I only RP a lot in major fleet engagements or where LN could have heavy losses, I try to minimize my losses by tricking the enemy. If I'm in my fighter, or my BS for example, and I see a pirate fighter closing in, I will engage him on both chars. If I was on my BS I'd get called a cap whore for attacking a fighter in a BS, and what should I do in "RP" according to these puritans. I should log off my BS, which is in itself ooRP, and then I should proceed to log on my fighter to blast that one guy out of the sky. And this situation happens often, I've just learned one really simple way of dealing with things. Ignore the people whining on forums. Its much simpler, and much more fun to play then.
' Wrote:Just a question, tell me why is that bad roleplay? From what I can see, that is exactly the RP you should be doing when a lawful encounters a criminal or vice versa. It is ooRP to start chatting up the criminal and exchanging pointless insults. People only do that to satisfy others who'd whine about getting killed without "RP", when in fact this "RP" they demand is in common sense, ooRP. I do it as well, I randomly insult a criminal or say I'm engaging or whatever before, but sometimes I don't, and when someone whines about it I laugh at them. Its more proper in RP to do what I'm doing, than what they demand. In RP my char would be what you call a pure example of a pvp whore, he wants to kill all pirates, everywhere he can, all the time. But that is his RP story, does that make him ooRP? During my time online for example on LN, I RP all the time in group chat, everyone who's ever seen me can confirm that. With criminals I only RP a lot in major fleet engagements or where LN could have heavy losses, I try to minimize my losses by tricking the enemy. If I'm in my fighter, or my BS for example, and I see a pirate fighter closing in, I will engage him on both chars. If I was on my BS I'd get called a cap whore for attacking a fighter in a BS, and what should I do in "RP" according to these puritans. I should log off my BS, which is in itself ooRP, and then I should proceed to log on my fighter to blast that one guy out of the sky. And this situation happens often, I've just learned one really simple way of dealing with things. Ignore the people whining on forums. Its much simpler, and much more fun to play then.
wow what a great example of a guy why is a PVP whore. when I am in my Cruiser's I own and I see fighters and that I tell them they have 30 seconds to leave this system or be engaged and things like that I dont just go up to them and start blasting away I give them at least a chance to run why its way over kill to use a cruiser or above to kill a little fighter a bomber I can see you just attacking why because they are a threat to any capital ship.
No I dont own any Lawful ships why because when I was first starting on this server I got a threatened by LPI and LSF that if I did lose the police ID I was going to be shot on sight.I have a NovaPG a Liberty Rogue and if you have read any of the Bounty Hunter discussion I also have a harvester all of which I own FIghters/bombers why because in a fighter I find it more fun to fight in when I do get in a fight. But before I fight I try and do RP with people most the time when I just fight its because the Lawful Players start a attack on me with no RP and I am just defending myself tonight on my Rogue character I accually saw I LNS guy do some accual roleplay...thank you for that It was nice to see some of that.
But 90% of the Lawfuls I meet are just look at you and shoot even if you are just sitting in space doing nothing. By lawfuls I mean Police, Navy and Bounty Hunters(yes there are a few non good BH's but most are lawful).
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