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[jammi]

NO, you can't kill a person for being friend of a nomad, as well as you can't shoot someone for being [Insert religion here].

Sure you can. If your ID enables you to shoot unlawfuls, the fact that the Outcasts are Nomad sympathizers is a perfectly good reason. That's the main reason The Order attacks them. Roleplay is a double edged sword that can be swung at both parties.

Where did you find that omicron 99 is holy place for outcast?

Well, you have to fly through an Outcast ceremonial graveyard to get to it, and its the system where the 'angels' who protect the graves come from. Stands to reason the Outcasts would be hostile to people poking around there.

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[BloodTree]

Vrabcek
It`s only reason why players do that.
It dos not mean that there must be RP reason to farm remains.
If you want find out if I do RP feel free meet me in game.

And seems there going only of topic right now too bad.

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Denialism is choosing to deny reality as a way to avoid an uncomfortable truth.

[BloodTree]

NO, you can't kill a person for being friend of a nomad, as well as you can't shoot someone for being [Insert religion here].

Sure you can. If your ID enables you to shoot unlawfuls, the fact that the Outcasts are Nomad sympathizers is a perfectly good reason. That's the main reason The Order attacks them. Roleplay is a double edged sword that can be swung at both parties.

Where did you find that omicron 99 is holy place for outcast?

Well, you have to fly through an Outcast ceremonial graveyard to get to it, and its the system where the 'angels' who protect the graves come from. Stands to reason the Outcasts would be hostile to people poking around there.

maybe thous outcast call wild?

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[Nosferath]

NO, you can't kill a person for being friend of a nomad, as well as you can't shoot someone for being [Insert religion here].

Sure you can. If your ID enables you to shoot unlawfuls, the fact that the Outcasts are Nomad sympathizers is a perfectly good reason. That's the main reason The Order attacks them. Roleplay is a double edged sword that can be swung at both parties.

Sorry on that one. What I meant, you can't just shoot them for the sole reason of being friendly towards nomads (it would be different, if that player was caught doing bad stuff while helping the nomads).
And, yeah, if your ID lets you hunt unlawfuls, of course you can hunt OC (with valid RP interaction), be them nomad-friendly or not. And yeah, the Order attacks OC, but that is part of the faction diplomacy, which is result of nom-oc friendliness, and went through a process before.

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[Lonely Werewolf]

I feel this discussion is moving off topic. Maybe you'd rather just address the issues you brought up originally in this thread and our responces, while making a seperate gank thread, instead of diverting the attention here elsewhere.

Vrabcek
It`s only reason why players do that.
It dos not mean that there must be RP reason to farm remains.
And If you and find out if I do RP feel free meet me in game.

And seems there going only of topic right now too bad.

Yes I agree it is getting slightly off topic. As i mentioned much earlier as you can see above. Nonetheless you carried on. You were asking before why people are "Flaming" or Hostile towards you, as I said before it's because you don't seem to listen. Your STILL mixing up between RP and Server rules. Which I'm happy to help go through with you but I can sympathasise with why people get frustrated.

As is the answer to most problems you can encounter, doing the relavent research will often yield the answer. If you look up Nomad and Outcast RP you'll have found many of the answers given here and you could also have found the reasons and uses for IDs.

As for RP behind farming remains, well I have no experience to offer on that front. Except the logic that if Outcasts find you, then will not like it, as you can see form several different pieces of forum RP etc.

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NO, you can't kill a person for being friend of a nomad, as well as you can't shoot someone for being [Insert religion here].

Sure you can. If your ID enables you to shoot unlawfuls, the fact that the Outcasts are Nomad sympathizers is a perfectly good reason. That's the main reason The Order attacks them. Roleplay is a double edged sword that can be swung at both parties.

Where did you find that omicron 99 is holy place for outcast?

Well, you have to fly through an Outcast ceremonial graveyard to get to it, and its the system where the 'angels' who protect the graves come from. Stands to reason the Outcasts would be hostile to people poking around there.

maybe thous outcast call wild?

Now your single line there, really doesn't make any sense, if you want an answer to this I sugggest you expand on it.

[jammi]

To be honest, if you were going to farm Nomads as a Zoner, Omicron Delta (or Iota) would be the place to go. Freeport 11 has to fight the Nomads off on a daily basis, so Order and Zoner 'counter attacks' in the region would be logical. Plus the Outcasts would be too far away to bother you.

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[BloodTree]

To be honest, if you were going to farm Nomads as a Zoner, Omicron Delta (or Iota) would be the place to go. Freeport 11 has to fight the Nomads off on a daily basis, so Order and Zoner 'counter attacks' in the region would be logical. Plus the Outcasts would be too far away to bother you.

I only seen Nomad BS NPC in omicron 99 maybe there is other place where can find them?

Zoner bs is still warship and players want use it against something.

Seems this nomad/outcast thing makes too much confuse so ill stay out of it on forum.

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[Chrono]

The Outcasts worship the Nomads as gods, therefor if you shoot them, prepare to be shot at by both sides because the Nomads are defending themselves from the human infestation, and the Outcasts are defending their gods.

MAKE SENSE NOW?

Also, this...

Denialism is choosing to deny reality as a way to avoid an uncomfortable truth.

Is TOTALLY the perfect Sig for you.

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[BloodTree]

Here first troll comes.

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Denialism is choosing to deny reality as a way to avoid an uncomfortable truth.

[Agmen of Eladesor]

Actually, regarding Zoner neutrality, it's really quite simple.

Zoners want to be neutral to everyone, so that they can get along.
Not everyone wants to be neutral to Zoners in return, though.

Thus, your Zoner Juggy going out into space is supposed to be, by role-play, neutral to the Outcasts. That doesn't mean the Outcasts HAVE to be neutral back to you - they are perfectly free to pirate or destroy you. Are they violating any SERVER rules? No. Does that mean that there may not in ROLE-PLAY consequences for their actions? Of course not - there could be. (In this case, probably not, because you're being an instigator.)

As a perfect example of this from a couple of years ago -

The BHG|Core got irritated that the Zoners were being very chummy with the Order, while being less friendly with them. At the same time, the Corsairs ALSO were irritated with the Zoners for similar reasons that had to do with Outcasts. Net result - the BHG|Core and the Corsairs ended up with a Non-Aggression Pact (not quite allied, but nearly so) against Zoners and Order. So you ended up at one point with combined BHG|Core / Corsair fleets shooting at Zoner / Order / Outcast fleets. And on the side, the Keepers (Nomads) were silent partners with the BHG|Core due to the Core Guildmaster being an infected Wilde.

Complicated? Sure. Potentially confusing? Oh, yeah. Much screaming on the forums? Definitely. Violation of SERVER rules? Nope - all done within role-play, with in game role-play consequences, and no need to involve the server admins.

That's been our point all along that you apparently refuse to consider - we do stuff here because we LIKE to role-play. Player vs Player combat can be, and is, a valid part of role-play, but for most people here it is not what defines the role-play, it's secondary. And the minor detail that most of us have multiple characters, and thus multiple personalities available on the forums and in games means that we can sometimes end up arguing with ourselves.

That's why if someone wants to pirate or shoot a Zoner, he's free to do so. That's why K'Hara ships can sit in space looking for friends. That's why some Outcasts worship Nomads and other don't. That's why some LPI are always on donut break or bashing out your taillights looking for a bribe while others aren't.

If you want to farm Nomad NPC battleships for components needed, you're free to do so. There simply will be in-game role-play consequences for doing that - certain members of the Outcasts that effectively worship Nomads, as well as the K'Hara faction itself - will hunt you down and kill you. And since Nomads have a ZOI of EVERYWHERE - you may run, but you can't hide from them if they really, really want you dead.

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.