I know there is some bad feelings about blanket bounties.

[Markus_Janus]

Well, the fact is Samura is, although considered monopolist by many, actually very vulnerable from that side, because there is another firm in Kussari, Kishiro, and they are just waiting to get customers on their side.

You can bet your bottom dollar they are, greedy little thieves.:laugh:
But yeah that doesn't change the fact that we operate very differently from them.
One of the things Kishiro and Samura always has to work on is not just being mirror copies of each other.
The lure is always there and we both put effort into maintaining our differences.
Our relationship with the FA/Hogosha is one of those differences, and the most likely to show up ingame, with the current mechanics we have to deal with.
I know that Kishiro has their own relationship with the Hogosha, but it is an entirely different relationship.

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Samura Omotai Zaibatsu.

[Zelot]

I say everyone just join me in making an AFA. Let the bounty go, and let the AFA just continue to pirate all those people for their entire load of cargo. Same difference. Cause it's not like that what I do already.:cool:

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@ Markus

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My sincerest apologies re: post 235/245

I had read an earlier post made by a mercenary (post 11) and wrongly assumed it was the mercenary responding rather than the player.

Frankly, if it's a private offer to the Hogosha and AFA, I'm not sure why theres any objection.

Lets hope it doesn't kill off trade up there though. Last time I was on, it was fairly scarce.

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[Ceoran]

I keep getting the feeling you ended up with arguments and tried pulling this card. Let them be foolish enough to mess with the best, with those who know how IC business is done. Failed attempt is failed. I never spoke here with bias on IC. I spoke as a player with concerns about other players.

You think it's good roleplay to blast indie who surely is unaware of how to deliver criminal evidence against legal pirates? And then have excuse "evidence or it didn't happen".

I say claim where destruction of IC vessel was in Shikoku. Sad imho.

So you assume. Yet nobody ever proofed us wrong about the relationship between Samura and the Farmers/Hogosha. Nor on our attitude towards gaijin. So why is there any further needs for arguments right now?
I was telling you how your posts came across, sorry for telling you, won't do that again if it upsets you.

About the indy: We are not to blame if they are unaware of their environment. Freelancers with Percherons pass through Kusari on a daily basis and wonder why they get blown up. The same with Freelancers who happen to ship military vehicles or other restricted cargo.
If you are trading in a specific area, you should be familiar with said area. Knowing that the Hogosha or Farmers might hit you in Kusari if you are a foreigner isn't really hard to figure out. It's not like they are allowed to do so in front of the law enforcement though.

last line: elaborate.

Well, the fact is Samura is, although considered monopolist by many, actually very vulnerable from that side, because there is another firm in Kussari, Kishiro, and they are just waiting to get customers on their side.

That's what is happening inRP. Kishiro is catching up due to Samura being to stuck up in traditional methods. However, Samura still controls 70% of all shipping in Kusari. It's not like that would change in a blink of an eye. Stating otherwise would be like saying Bill Gates isn't rich only because he isn't the richest man in the world anymore.
Kishiro is catching up only means that they are growing faster than Samura right now, not necessarily that Samura actually would be dying.

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My Stories Outcast laws and structures Join Samura|-

Go play the game, within the given limitations. That is how role play games are played. Not by trying to work around those limitations or whining about them.

[Markus_Janus]

@ Markus

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My sincerest apologies re: post 235/245

I had read an earlier post made by a mercenary (post 11) and wrongly assumed it was the mercenary responding rather than the player.

Frankly, if it's a private offer to the Hogosha and AFA, I'm not sure why theres any objection.

Lets hope it doesn't kill off trade up there though. Last time I was on, it was fairly scarce.

Hey no problems, quite a lot can get lost over 29 pages.:rtfm:
But yeah I hope the same, the objections are for the vast majority, quite welcome.
I put this here as I felt objections and criticism never hurts, well unless it is from my girl.:laugh:

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Samura Omotai Zaibatsu.

[SnakThree]

I saw a claim of destruction in Shikoku on your board. Porter said it was IC ship. Meaning he destroyed one of the biggest corporation's ship. Chat log even proves he announced that he will destroy it.

So in essence, shooting IC ship in Kusari, openly stating it is poor form. If, that indie would know what to do, that Hogosha would be already submitted as criminal, directly hurting assets of IC, hurting direct flow of goods etc.

In short words, I think it's poor form of roleplay. Especially taking into account what expectations as onto official faction members. And you are directly fueling it.

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[Markus_Janus]

I saw a claim of destruction in Shikoku on your board. Porter said it was IC ship. Meaning he destroyed one of the biggest corporation's ship. Chat log even proves he announced that he will destroy it.

So in essence, shooting IC ship in Kusari, openly stating it is poor form. If, that indie would know what to do, that Hogosha would be already submitted as criminal, directly hurting assets of IC, hurting direct flow of goods etc.

In short words, I think it's poor form of roleplay. Especially taking into account what expectations as onto official faction members. And you are directly fueling it.

Ok so one of IC's ships was destroyed by a pirate, and he wants to claim the Hogosha as a criminal.
No problems so far.
No doubt the Kusari government will start an unsuccessful search for him due to his heinous crimes.

If you are complaining about his destruction without a piracy demand then sure ok I can understand that.
Other pirates can kill without demands if there is a price on your head, but either way this is being taken care of.
You will have a demand for piracy in the future.
If it is another aspect of what happened, you will have to explain it to me.

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Samura Omotai Zaibatsu.

[SnakThree]

Exactly. Unsuccessful search bla bla. Avoiding roleplay consequences. Hogosha are civilians, right? Civilians do not disturb beneficial activity to house or they'd be arrested. But when we have unlimited lifes, unlimited number of character creations, argument "NO U" they (consequences) disappear into void.

You made this bounty board without deep insight as I see. Thus it once again implies rather poor reasoning behind it. I'm sure for example Miners aren't taking your share of market. Not any independent individual should even be held as competition in imaginary roleplay, which goes hand in hand with lore, which you claim to fulfill now. By bountying independent individuals.

[RL comparison]

I don't see Microsoft sabotageing individual IT specialist's job to gain monopoly. Simply because it's not competition to them at all. Thus it in't worth the risk of public relations if it goes to surface.

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[Markus_Janus]

Exactly. Unsuccessful search bla bla. Avoiding roleplay consequences. Hogosha are civilians, right? Civilians do not disturb beneficial activity to house or they'd be arrested. But when we have unlimited lifes, unlimited number of character creations, argument "NO U" they (consequences) disappear into void.

You made this bounty board without deep insight as I see. Thus it once again implies rather poor reasoning behind it. I'm sure for example Miners aren't taking your share of market. Not any independent individual should even be held as competition in imaginary roleplay, which goes hand in hand with lore, which you claim to fulfill now. By bountying independent individuals.

[RL comparison]

I don't see Microsoft sabotageing individual IT specialist's job to gain monopoly. Simply because it's not competition to them at all. Thus it in't worth the risk of public relations if it goes to surface.

You don't see microsoft flying spaceships either.
But you do see aggressive take overs, but that is not the exact same thing as you have mentioned same as what you mentioned was not the exact same thing, but that is ok.
Ok so now we know that established server lore is stupid because you say so and we should all run around after a unidentified ship that allegedly attacked another ship that was destroyed with no witnesses and
somehow we are supposed to know with our psychic powers?

You keep talking about these consequences that you have imagined in your head and think that because you say that it is how it is, then everyone must follow your ideas.
Do you even know yourself what the consequences are.
I don't think you put a lot of thought into your post there Snake, this implies rather poor reasoning on your part really.

Can you show me this lore part where it shows that all individuals are ignored as a non threat?

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Samura Omotai Zaibatsu.

[SnakThree]

Keep trolling on your own thread. Good. Now that I am sure this thread is pointless since you mean "feedback welcome" and when it's given "But no."

Since it's you who needs to defend his position, please show me evidence such lore where all of those factions + independets are bountied.

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