Do you want the returne of the Solar System?

[Luka]

There are thousands if not millions of dead systems exactly like you described. Sirian humans have never been to Sol. They weren't there after its destruction. Like I said, they could fly right through the system and not know it was actually Sol.

so you mean O41 could be sol?

[Marburg]

I'm a geek just like everyone else around here, so I have my moments when I overthink too. I am curios though: isn't the entire point of this thread something about adding sol to the game?

That's not gonna happen, you understand that, right?

There's nothing to go back to around Sol nor is there any reason to.

...Indulging pipedreams on occasion is pretty healthy though:tease:

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[r3vange]

[color=#FFFFFF]Sol is pretty useless. Earth is small and will be overcrowded if recolonized (if it isn't just an asteroid belt after the sun went kaput), all of the other planets pretty much devoid of useful resources. I really don't understand what is so appealing about it?

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[Luka]

[color=#ffffff]Sol is pretty useless. Earth is small and will be overcrowded if recolonized (if it isn't just an asteroid belt after the sun went kaput), all of the other planets pretty much devoid of useful resources. I really don't understand what is so appealing about it?

Maybe the simple fact it's Human's homeworld?, if you take that on account, Earth is the center of the Universe

[r3vange]

[color=#FFFFFF]Amen

Let's use an RL example, mom is from Bulgaria, dad's from Bulgaria, now if I stay here in England and have a kid with an English girl our child will be English, his/hers children too (providing he/she stays in England). So you see where I am going? Considering that for 800 years 15-20 generations passed the meaning of "human homeworld" roughly translates to f-all. People could show interest in their origins but why would they want it back? Why would they want something they've escaped with the cost of many many many lives?

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[Luka]

[color=#ffffff]Amen

Let's use an RL example, mom is from Bulgaria, dad's from Bulgaria, now if I stay here in England and have a kid with an English girl our child will be English, his/hers children too (providing he/she stays in England). So you see where I am going?

But at least you can go back to bulgaria, Earth is pretty much unknown of

[r3vange]

[color=#FFFFFF]I can but my kids' kids won't actually care where their gramps is from, we take Earth as the one and only because we simply have no other alternatives at the moment. Also another RL example. Look at Australia, how many of the descendants of the colonists want to go back to wherever their ancestors came from for this reason only? Same with Sirius and Earth if you ask me

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[Hielor]

it's a huge ice cloud surrounding the sol system, even if the sun exploded, there would be a remnant (be it white dwarf, black hole, pulsar, neutron star, whatever), and both the cloud block and the gravity well would keep a big portion of the matter in there.

Aside there would be a huge nebula or debris if it really exploded like in O41.

You apparently misunderstand the concept of "escape velocity." Look it up.

The Oort cloud is not a blanket that will somehow magically stop everything coming through it. It's rather sparse--things could easily pass through it.

Ok, Hielor, pointing at a video and talking about the surface area of jupiter has nothing to do with the physics of a cosmic explosion. Unless the sun is throwing out huge chunks of mass in all directions itself, any resultant explosion of a planetary body will be isotropic -- equal amounts of matter will be thrown toward the epicenter of the blast and away from it. Even if another planetary body that exploded sent a fragment into Jupiter with enough energy to actually split a solid planet, Jupiter is a gas giant which is already held together by its own gravity. Large objects colliding with Jupiter at high speeds would probably leave a small tear and pass through it.

The center of mass of the system remains unchanged unless the superweapon manages to apply some force to the system-- and even so, the entire system would be moving in one direction if that were the case.

It's fairly evident from your statement that you have not watched the video. The video that I linked to is the one we're talking about--it's the canon background for Discovery. Watch it.

Moving on, planets don't explode from the inside (which is what would cause an isotropic explosion). It's not even really exploding, as you can see from the video--it's having pieces of it pushed off by the explosion of the star, all of which will be *away* from the center of the explosion (which was the star).

The center of mass of the system doesn't matter when most of the matter in the system is moving outward at faster than escape velocity, because it's not going to come back--it's going to leave the system.

[Luka]

You apparently misunderstand the concept of "escape velocity." Look it up.

Dude, there is no physics in this game!, asteroids are tiny, planets as well, there's is no escape velocity,, even fusion-powered ships need docking rings to land, so I find it hard that any escape velocity would exist in a freaking intro, that plume wouldn't be going at a 23000 KM/S but at a simple 3000 M/S, and if it was more realistical, still there would be a dust cloud for the next star, even supernovas leave a nebula.

Still, Sol would've exactly like O41 if it exploded, or like something else, it wouldn't just dissapear, it leaves a remnant.

[Klaw117]

Just because Freelancer has issues with size doesn't mean we should ignore all physics in this game. There are plenty of in-game devices that have an explanation based on physics.

For example, escape velocity does indeed exist in the Freelancer universe. However, most areas use docking rings because they act as orbital elevators, eliminating the need to waste a ton of fuel in trying to reach escape velocity to leave a planet. Docking rings also save fuel in landing because during atmospheric re-entry, a lot of fuel is wasted in trying to stabilize the ship if it lands without the use of a docking ring. The docking ring provides an orbital elevator for smoother, more efficient re-entry. However, the poorer factions, like the Corsairs and the Outcasts, still use their ships to reach escape velocity. In Omicron-81, an infocard of the moon, which has no docking ring, says that Outcasts will land on the planet to mine the massive metal deposits there before taking off in their ships.

However, I do agree with you that a star's death would leave a remnant. Even if Sol's outer layers were blown far away, the core, now known as a white dwarf, would still remain. However, I don't know if anything would still be orbiting it. Someone pointed out that if there's a sudden change in the mass of the object that everything is orbiting, the orbiting objects could suddenly just fly out of their orbits, which does make sense.

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Carlos Rivera: Corsair Brotherhood Pirate - Retired, shifted to Tripoli Shipyard's Research and Development engineering teams
Anthony Cameron: Guild Core Bounty Hunter - Killed in Action, committed suicide after being trapped in Omicron Minor following its destruction
Juan Ruiz: Outcast Ghost of Razgriz Pirate - Killed in Action, killed by the Sirius Coalition Revolutionary Army during Bretonian piracy raid
Michael Winchester: Liberty Security Force Agent - Missing in Action, likely killed during Rheinland espionage mission or trapped in Rheinland Space
Eric McCormick: Order Pilot - Retired, shifted to planetside training of new recruits

Liberty and Nomad Backstory, Very interesting - read it!