' Wrote:Heres some feedback for you. Don't shoot people because they left your faction, and don't kill civilians infront of Manhattan. No one was insulting you, nothing was directed at you or your members, yet you planet dive, then log off to switch to a Gunboat and proceeded killing people for no apparent reason, and I should mention with little-to-no roleplay at all.
what is this your buisness what goes between me and hoban you came crashing in our conversation
For one thing if you make some one mad and start insulting them do not expect to breath long
Even in real life people do not put up with that!!!! so yeah... ( it was a rough day) my baddddd
' Wrote: you call some one stupid you should die for that If i was in your face in real life and i call you stupid
we would be fighting Right? so its roleplay you call any leader stupid you should get a nuke planet in your back yard
Do Not Start A Fight If You Can Not Handle IT, their is nothing fair about fighting you make me mad you
best beleive any angel I can come at you with wheather it be another character so help me god....I will come to you and bring a feirce hell apon you that goes to every one in sirus
1. Treat people as you would be treated and you will not have near as issues you are having
2. bringing the fact that you started talking junk and then start complaining because your little friend got his glass jaw shut!
3. I am not the one you want to make angry I was just trying to make some Credtis and you and your palz started talking trash hoban has been my enemy for a while AND AUSTIN
you have not a clue
my roleplay engaging hostiles
my reason :I WAS MAD and you guys were talking trash
you ramed my transports YOU FOR GOT THE MENTION WHAT YOU DID DIDNT YOU
yeah explain to sirus that you have a problem shutting your mouth so it got shot in the process
NoW You can either leave this stupid childish issue alone and quit moaning over it
and blasting the forums MOM HE HIT MEEEEEE hey get over it ..... stop talking trash
I mind my own buisness you mind your own buisness understand this
And it is a know fact if you hate some one your going to try to annoy them which hoban is in the
process of getting me banned...I am sure he is I never report people when they mess with me
and when people report me its mainly because they had started something and i had finished it
then they become a sore looser and go tell an admin that they got their butts kicked and erm
the admin probally would say this *sighs* look you do know that chrome only kills some one if they get in his buisness and makes him REALLY ANGRY * because I dont mess with any one untill they mess with ME
so you dont want to get shot
do not mess with me is that clear? dont go running around ILL REPORT YOUUUUU for messing with me
and getting your nuts shot off im sick and tired of the whistle blowing snitches that sit their and try to kill me or insult me and thinks they should get away with it!!!!
Quote:first of all hoban was the most annoying member in my faction I only kept if for so long because I didnt want to kick him out:( third he became a jerk so now he wants to talk junk so be it!
and I AM GLAD HE IS GONE
are these names insulting austin?:rtfm:
STUPID MORON FISH LOOK WHAT A DUMBY HE IS BUYING NOOBS NEW SHIP HE MUST BE A MORON
AHAHAHAH if thats not insulting ... it was some freelancers that wanted to start something
and got something now they are crying because they got shot down you dont win every time thats what i hate about some of you people here you will start something and then go spamming the forums complaining to the admins crying justice STOP MAKING People mad you you wont get killed its simple
you call some one stupid you should die for that If i was in your face in real life and i call you stupid
we would be fighting Right? so its roleplay you call any leader stupid you should get a nuke planet in your back yard so let me remind you I was addressing hoban one last chance to not be an enemy
then you said UMT Sound annoying hoban said we were a thorn in his back side only because he was a smart mouth talked junk alot and i dont like it at all you got into the conversation so did that other moron
you started talkng junk well ( you should have been more carefull ) hoban has threataned UMT before
infact hoban said that I BLEW UP A TRANSPORT that transport was no weres near me when i was shooting at hoban
First of all, no one at Newark called you a "Stupid moron fish, look what a dumby he is buying noobs a new ship." No one said that. If I remember correctly, and I do, it was you who asked the Freelancers there why we had "Noob ships" and the only comment I stated was "Noob ship? Not exactly chap."
Second, I'm not crying over this. I took down your entire faction, by myself, your gunboat, with another person, and that "Blacknight" guy who decided to call my character a pirate, which is a high insult considering the line of work my Character actually came from. I did exactly what my character should have done when some enraged person decided to shoot two people who didn't do anything to you.
If you're that pissed off you shouldn't be playing the game to begin with, or else you get feedbacks like these. Moving from that, any self respecting leader on these forums wouldn't get enraged over being called stupid in character. First off, its just a word. Secondly, its an in character insult, and if you felt directly insulted by it as a player you should have taken it to OOC with the other player in private chat saying "Hey, could you probably use a less direct word." and so fourth, but instead, you come back in a Gunboat and shoot people who weren't causing any problems.
I know there are plenty of faction leaders on these very forums who do not tolerate people back mouthing them, and they don't go ingame, hunt down their former faction member and grief him because he left the faction. They leave him alone unless he causes problems for the faction, and saying that "their a thorn in my backside" isn't causing problems for anyone, and shouldn't.
Quote: Do Not Start A Fight If You Can Not Handle IT, their is nothing fair about fighting you make me mad you
best beleive any angel I can come at you with wheather it be another character so help me god....I will come to you and bring a feirce hell apon you that goes to every one in sirus
I didn't start any fights, nor did anyone I was happily talking to. You came to Newark station, you started dialog with three people who were actually minding their own business, in the result of that, you felt that you were insulted, then you planet dived, then you brought a gunboat, then you shot two people. The only thing we did was roleplay who our characters are, and how they act in such situations. It's not our fault that you felt insulted. You had plenty of time to tell any one of us in private chat this. Not everyone on this forum is out to make someone have a bad day.
Now, the thing about this is that you're making threats you cannot keep. There are a lot of powerful pvp-oriented factions on this very server, and if you make an enemy with the wrong one, then you probably won't be having the best time on this server. So making threats to everyone on this server by saying you alone, will bring hell upon them, isn't what I would consider smart.
Quote:1. Treat people as you would be treated and you will not have near as issues you are having
2. bringing the fact that you started talking junk and then start complaining because your little friend got his glass jaw shut!
3. I am not the one you want to make angry I was just trying to make some Credtis and you and your palz started talking trash hoban has been my enemy for a while AND AUSTIN
One, treating people as you would want to be treated, doesn't just apply to Hoban, myself, or Brake. It applies to you as well.
Two, I didn't bring the fact that anyone was talking crap about you up, nor did I start complaining about it because someone was shot down. I was giving you constructive criticism to take a look at and change about either yourself or your faction. What happened last night, could've ended differently, and I would have given you a better feedback, instead, this is what happened. If you really don't like it, why are you here? Ask yourself that.
Three, people who know me know that I have a very short attitude when it comes to people who directly want to insult me, and an apology letter over private message generally doesn't do that trick. So frankly, simmer down and actually try responding in a neutral tone.
I'd like to point out for probably the fifth time, that no one was talking trash. Nothing that was said to you, each other, or other players that past by was trash talk. No one stopped you from making credits other than yourself, remember what I said above, that it was you who planet dived? Yeah, you could have just left, and left it at that.
Also, my character responded as he should have in such situation. Saying that he's an enemy because he avenged two people who were shot down for no apparent reason, is exactly part of his roleplay.
Quote:my roleplay engaging hostiles
my reason :I WAS MAD and you guys were talking trash
you ramed my transports YOU FOR GOT THE MENTION WHAT YOU DID DIDNT YOU
yeah explain to sirus that you have a problem shutting your mouth so it got shot in the process
"Engaging hostiles" Isn't roleplay, and what I saw last night, wasn't roleplay. There wasn't any prior roleplay to you coming up on the gunboat thinking you were better than everyone else and start shooting people. That isn't roleplay, that is a child acting childish.
I didn't ram your transport, someone else did, and while transport ramming or capital ship ramming is frowned upon, I frankly thought it was pretty interesting at how this other players character reacted to seeing your ship as a pinata. This was another point in time that you could've have told the player to stop ramming your ship.
Quote:NoW You can either leave this stupid childish issue alone and quit moaning over it
and blasting the forums MOM HE HIT MEEEEEE hey get over it ..... stop talking trash
I mind my own buisness you mind your own buisness understand this
I fail to see your reason behind this. Again, no one was trash talking, this isn't trash talking, this is criticism.
Quote:And it is a know fact if you hate some one your going to try to annoy them which hoban is in the
process of getting me banned...I am sure he is I never report people when they mess with me
and when people report me its mainly because they had started something and i had finished it
then they become a sore looser and go tell an admin that they got their butts kicked and erm
the admin probally would say this *sighs* look you do know that chrome only kills some one if they get in his buisness and makes him REALLY ANGRY * because I dont mess with any one untill they mess with ME
so you dont want to get shot
This makes me doubt that you even understand the process of the player sanctions, and the process of how our moderators and admin team actually work. This entire situation isn't based off of whether or not the admin will say this or that. This situation is based off of your in game behavior, and your in game attitude, and the consequences of what happened in game. As far as I'm aware, you're not in the process of being sanctioned.
Quote:do not mess with me is that clear? dont go running around ILL REPORT YOUUUUU for messing with me
and getting your nuts shot off im sick and tired of the whistle blowing snitches that sit there and try to kill me or insult me and thinks they should get away with it!!!!
Quote:Bottom line I am not mad at you and to me you were at the wrong place at the wrong time
Were IMG traders with some thugs bullying us so we reacted in the wrong way sorry that you got involved
you did not see what had happen, you only seen what you could see...can you read PMs? were you there
when hoban had insulted me before like 10000 times in the past basicly he asked for it and he dragged his friends with him you go butting into something please learn the situation better before you go trumping all your words I am being patient and kind to you let this be the end of it. Let it Go........ Hoban is dead and thats all there is to it its over.....so why keep starting trouble
I dont even know you so lets not start something
I was there, I know the situation as well as I know the back of my right hand, and the back of my right hand has a cut from one of my cats. So yeah, I do know the situation, and how you reacted wasn't fitting for a leader to switch to a gunboat and start killing people because he felt insulted.
Also, I don't think your entire post was kind or patient, frankly it came off hostile, and rude, hence why Schweinewasser said to get a grip. Which you truly need to do.
Finally, you started something when you came and interrupted the roleplay I was having at Newark, a fun and quirky roleplay that was making my day better than it had been. I think I deserve the right to step in and say my opinion on the situation.
So, I'm going to tell you what others told me. Straighten up your attitude, its only a game. If you're going to get insulted by something, leave. Go somewhere else. Log off. Don't rage kill people and call it roleplay. It isn't.
I have only had two direct interactions with UMT myself. Most of the time when I see them, they keep to themselves. That might be best considering:
The first interaction I had with UMT was the absolute worst, most childish, anti-RP, over-the-top-rage-fest I have EVER seen in Freelancer since the game hit store shelves many years ago.
A few things I want to point out:
1. UMT does not speak for IMG, nor do they have the authority to do so. NO faction may speak for, or assume they speak for another faction.
2. UMT does not have the authority to set policy for IMG. IMG is not only an OFFICIAL faction and you are not, but IMG is also one of the largest and most prolific. Meaning, they can speak for themselves and govern themselves.
3. You do not threaten other miners just because they are mining in Dublin. You do not threaten them with violence, you do not threaten them with gunboats, and you do not threaten to hunt them down wherever you find them just because they are mining. I remind you that you do not own the fields. The Crown owns those fields, and IMG pays taxes on those fields, and thus they pay for YOUR privilege to mine there. If you want to threaten people and shoot them down as a mining organization, then I suggest you change your ID's to Molly.
4. When the UMT miners who made these threats are questioned concerning them, you do not then threaten in PM, out of RP, the person asking the questions and especially with a character that has nothing to do with UMT, Mr. Chrome, Black wing, or whatever you are calling yourself today.
5. When asked to cease your out of RP, obscenity-laced, sociopathic, rage-induced PM tirade, you CEASE. You don't just keep going until the person is forced to ignore you. By the server rules you shouldn't have been PM'ing the person in that manner to begin with.
6. Nobody cares what you did on another server 'for years' or who you think you are.
7. Since you seem to be obsessed with respect and the belief that everyone on the server should just automatically respect you, I will say that I have NO respect for you whatsoever. Respect is earned, and it is earned by actions far more than by words or claims of deeds. Your actions are those of a child and do nothing to earn you, or your organization, any respect at all. In fact, they do the exact opposite. Your responses to Austin concerning his quite valid feedback to your actions have only served to highlight these facts.
8. It is clear to me that you lack the maturity and social graces to play this game. In addition, you are far too thin-skinned and easily offended by the slightest perceived offense to your character that I doubt any online social game would be suitable to you. Perhaps a nice game of Tetris would be more in line with your temperament.
Lastly, I obviously do not speak for IMG, I am merely presenting the facts. Your actions bring discredit onto IMG's good name as a respected faction on this server. As a spectator, and one who has been directly affected by your actions as well; I find your behavior in their name appalling. No doubt you are about to throw another temper tantrum at what I have said and tell me 'OMFG U ARE SO F****** DEAD!' because I have 'disrespected' you by being honest. I'll remind you that you have already issued that threat, and numerous others, and have yet to follow through on any of them.
Oh, before I forget: The second direct interaction I have had with UMT was a positive one. One of your escort ships flying solo did lend us assistance when we came under attack by some indie pirates. I don't recall the person's name, although their manner suggested a young female if that helps. She was quite a bit of help, and lent assistance without being asked. So much so that at first we confused her for a USI ship. Good RP as well. If she (or he, if my analysis was incorrect) reads this I certainly hope she wises up quickly a joins a faction that you are not involved in, before your behavior either corrupts the person or causes them to quit the game altogether.
That is all I have to say. You are not worth anymore of my time. Throw another tantrum if you wish. I do not possess Austin's patience for nonsense, so it is unlikely that I will be reading any responses.
Quote:Do Not Start A Fight If You Can Not Handle IT, their is nothing fair about fighting you make me mad you
best beleive any angel I can come at you with wheather it be another character so help me god....I will come to you and bring a feirce hell apon you that goes to every one in sirus
You are mixing up roleplay and OOC stuff.
Anyone intent to hunt people down, regardless of what character you are in or they are in, is not alright by the server rules.
Do it and you'll most probably find yourself sanctioned.
Just take a step back and relax. You may not be able to mine one night but you can mine the next.
Work with others and they will work with you.
Yes you will get *******s and generally annoying people but the key isn't to let them take over how you play the game.
Work with others and let them work with you.
still don't understand where the 300 views come from . chrome must be successful indeed...
I suggest you take your time and join other factions first ,
see if you can manage that for a long time
before you start your own
' Wrote:I have only had two direct interactions with UMT myself. Most of the time when I see them, they keep to themselves. That might be best considering:
The first interaction I had with UMT was the absolute worst, most childish, anti-RP, over-the-top-rage-fest I have EVER seen in Freelancer since the game hit store shelves many years ago.
A few things I want to point out:
1. UMT does not speak for IMG, nor do they have the authority to do so. NO faction may speak for, or assume they speak for another faction.
2. UMT does not have the authority to set policy for IMG. IMG is not only an OFFICIAL faction and you are not, but IMG is also one of the largest and most prolific. Meaning, they can speak for themselves and govern themselves.
3. You do not threaten other miners just because they are mining in Dublin. You do not threaten them with violence, you do not threaten them with gunboats, and you do not threaten to hunt them down wherever you find them just because they are mining. I remind you that you do not own the fields. The Crown owns those fields, and IMG pays taxes on those fields, and thus they pay for YOUR privilege to mine there. If you want to threaten people and shoot them down as a mining organization, then I suggest you change your ID’s to Molly.
4. When the UMT miners who made these threats are questioned concerning them, you do not then threaten in PM, out of RP, the person asking the questions and especially with a character that has nothing to do with UMT, Mr. Chrome, Black wing, or whatever you are calling yourself today.
5. When asked to cease your out of RP, obscenity-laced, sociopathic, rage-induced PM tirade, you CEASE. You don’t just keep going until the person is forced to ignore you. By the server rules you shouldn’t have been PM’ing the person in that manner to begin with.
6. Nobody cares what you did on another server “for years” or who you think you are.
7. Since you seem to be obsessed with respect and the belief that everyone on the server should just automatically respect you, I will say that I have NO respect for you whatsoever. Respect is earned, and it is earned by actions far more than by words or claims of deeds. Your actions are those of a child and do nothing to earn you, or your organization, any respect at all. In fact, they do the exact opposite. Your responses to Austin concerning his quite valid feedback to your actions have only served to highlight these facts.
8. It is clear to me that you lack the maturity and social graces to play this game. In addition, you are far too thin-skinned and easily offended by the slightest perceived offense to your character that I doubt any online social game would be suitable to you. Perhaps a nice game of Tetris would be more in line with your temperament.
Lastly, I obviously do not speak for IMG, I am merely presenting the facts. Your actions bring discredit onto IMG’s good name as a respected faction on this server. As a spectator, and one who has been directly affected by your actions as well; I find your behavior in their name appalling. No doubt you are about to throw another temper tantrum at what I have said and tell me “OMFG U ARE SO F****** DEAD!” because I have “disrespected” you by being honest. I’ll remind you that you have already issued that threat, and numerous others, and have yet to follow through on any of them.
Oh, before I forget: The second direct interaction I have had with UMT was a positive one. One of your escort ships flying solo did lend us assistance when we came under attack by some indie pirates. I don’t recall the person’s name, although their manner suggested a young female if that helps. She was quite a bit of help, and lent assistance without being asked. So much so that at first we confused her for a USI ship. Good RP as well. If she (or he, if my analysis was incorrect) reads this I certainly hope she wises up quickly a joins a faction that you are not involved in, before your behavior either corrupts the person or causes them to quit the game altogether.
That is all I have to say. You are not worth anymore of my time. Throw another tantrum if you wish. I do not possess Austin's patience for nonsense, so it is unlikely that I will be reading any responses.