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Offline Govedo13
09-26-2013, 11:15 AM,
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(09-26-2013, 10:53 AM)acqchangqing Wrote: btw could u plz teach me what is " Jens". Is that mean "you" or "I" ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jens

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(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)

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Offline lIceColon
09-26-2013, 11:50 AM,
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(09-26-2013, 10:53 AM)acqchangqing Wrote:
(09-26-2013, 10:12 AM)Kazinsal Wrote: Jens, speaking of power cores for transports, what's the point of heavy transports all having hyperspace survey module slots but none of them have enough power core to USE them?

I probably understood ur meaning and agree with you if you meant transports can't use that device.(sorry I havn't used that). the max transports' energy is 7500 now.. btw could u plz teach me what is " Jens". Is that mean "you" or "I" ?

jens=jansen (i think)


(09-26-2013, 09:24 AM)Jansen Wrote: You could have a look at the power cores of transports and Gunboats, I'd say this is fine as it is.

You could also look at how transports can't use gb turrets and vice versa. I say if you want power core to actually matter, then don't limit the type of turrets or guns a ships can use, let power core be the limiting factor. transport turrets are way too power efficient power core wise, if I were an inrp ship designer I would design a battleship with 500x transport turret slots and yes, your average capship has the core to sustain continuous firing of that many turrets, which is in my opinion ridiculous- are power core values supposed to be inrp or oorp anyways?

currently the only ship where gb/trans turret's power use actually matters is the salvager, and that ship is about combat worthy as nothing (at least in my hands).

also, while I understand how a LF cant mount a cap turret, imo there's absolutely nothing (inrp) stopping a cap from mounting a fighter turret, and there shouldn't be.

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Offline acqchangqing
09-26-2013, 12:37 PM,
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(09-26-2013, 11:15 AM)Govedo13 Wrote:
(09-26-2013, 10:53 AM)acqchangqing Wrote: btw could u plz teach me what is " Jens". Is that mean "you" or "I" ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jens

Oh yeah, thanks. I got it..
Jens, Danish slang for a military recruit.

Danish? I remember I once saw a Danish player..


@lIceColon :Yes, another one is Raba.Big Grin. It seems I bias again.
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Offline Murcielago
09-26-2013, 03:36 PM,
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You are pissing here agains the wind whit this tread.
I have done that and am still wet.
The developers don't care to implant other people ideas.
They are like avalance they change the inviroment no matter if it was good or bad.

GB are good for..well I don't know for what are they good now.
We should rename GB to UB - uselessboat whit turrets.
It is ship 15-20time more expencive than fighter..and you can't kill the single fighter if fighter don't let you.

Solution;
Buy other ship like I will. No matter if we are crying...
Do u feel the storm? I will get wet now again ...
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Offline acqchangqing
09-26-2013, 05:15 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-26-2013, 05:19 PM by acqchangqing.)
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(09-26-2013, 03:36 PM)Murcielago Wrote: You are pissing here agains the wind whit this tread.
I have done that and am still wet.
The developers don't care to implant other people ideas.
They are like avalance they change the inviroment no matter if it was good or bad.

GB are good for..well I don't know for what are they good now.
We should rename GB to UB - uselessboat whit turrets.
It is ship 15-20time more expencive than fighter..and you can't kill the single fighter if fighter don't let you.

Solution;
Buy other ship like I will. No matter if we are crying...
Do u feel the storm? I will get wet now again ...


haha.
Learning your urine culture whatever I cleared who's your piss target. Maybe I was just discussing with other players whether dev teams care or not. and this's a good place to communicate with international friends.

Oh I forgot say "hi" to you.
Nice to see you again..
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Offline Pepe
09-27-2013, 04:22 PM,
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If they make Zapper turrets do what infocard says, it'd be not that bad. Combined GB wing would be a force, half ships with anti-fighter setup, other half with anti-cap setup.

And the price of buying and equipping one GB is the problem as well. That ships simply don't worth that money now. With ship's price lowered, there could be a slight possibility to see GB wings somewhere again. Even gunships with AU8, why not!

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Offline Jack_Henderson
09-27-2013, 04:37 PM,
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The game needs more money sinks instead of fewer. So lowering ship prices will not work.
Also: who cares about money anyway? Everybody who has been here for a bit has enough billions to pretty much make every ship he wants whenever he wants it.

About the Gunboat:

I would say: re-run the tests once the shield bubble is up again. The big strength of the GBs was that they could practically insta-deshield snubs and chip hull off if the snubs were too cheeky and came too close.

This ability has not been nerfed, the range just has been shortened, it seems. Solarizer turrets should still work great and with a shield bubble and fixed snub hitboxes, it should actually be a pretty capable weapon again. I suspect heavily that the uselessness at the moment comes from the difficulty that every ship has when it comes to dropping shields. That will be gone, soon.

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Offline Murcielago
09-27-2013, 04:46 PM,
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(09-27-2013, 04:37 PM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: The game needs more money sinks instead of fewer. So lowering ship prices will not work.
Also: who cares about money anyway? Everybody who has been here for a bit has enough billions to pretty much make every ship he wants whenever he wants it.

About the Gunboat:

I would say: re-run the tests once the shield bubble is up again. The big strength of the GBs was that they could practically insta-deshield snubs and chip hull off if the snubs were too cheeky and came too close.

This ability has not been nerfed, the range just has been shortened, it seems. Solarizer turrets should still work great and with a shield bubble and fixed snub hitboxes, it should actually be a pretty capable weapon again. I suspect heavily that the uselessness at the moment comes from the difficulty that every ship has when it comes to dropping shields. That will be gone, soon.

I don't know what will be...
But now the GB's is bad for fighting...
We are talking here about what we see not what will we see..

or perhaps...yes I see them whit 850dps 1500speed range 900 and fire rate 6.
oh that looks nice.
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Offline Zayne Carrick
09-27-2013, 04:54 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-27-2013, 05:01 PM by Zayne Carrick.)
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I have an idea: give each GB(maybe not gunship) cruiser heavy slot.
So gunboats can go around with one cruiser cerb as anticap/antitransport weapon and rest solarises as antisnub.
Or use Cruiser Shock Ray to instakill VHFs.
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Offline Murcielago
09-27-2013, 04:59 PM,
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(09-27-2013, 04:54 PM)Zayne Carrick Wrote: I have an idea: give each GB(maybe not to gunships) cruiser heavy slot.
So gunboats can go around with one cruiser cerbs as anticap/antitransport weapon and rest solarises as antisnub.

We have that as GB forward gun...
but nomad GB have all cruiser slots..or is that just bad cruiser whit GB shild?

just give back the old house GB turrets
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