(03-21-2016, 10:54 AM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: On the other hand, the trader can try to negotiate.
That was my intention. I understand people, but I am pirate and it's up to the other side if he or she wants to negotiate. Borderworlds are not kindergarden.
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What else did you expect? You asked the worse demand there is within the rules, and judging by the RP he provided before the demand you did it on a new player as well. There's no one to blame but you here.
The "drop all your cargo" line is the best you can get in terms of blue messages, even though I never understood why would you specifically log to blue message transports. Pretty sure 95% of the people will never drop all their cargo, and for obvious reasons. It's a disgusting demand and you should feel bad.
(03-21-2016, 11:00 AM)Antonio Wrote: provided before the demand you did it on a new player as well.
New players? Too bad I do not have screenshots, because that guy had level 70-something.
(03-21-2016, 11:00 AM)Antonio Wrote: Pretty sure 95% of the people will never drop all their cargo, and for obvious reasons. It's a disgusting demand and you should feel bad.
I am sorry that I wanted to act like real pirate in the borderworlds. I am sorry for that! VERY. SORRY. Borderworlds are not a kindergarden. And other player had pretty high level, plus had Serenity. He knew the dangers.
Saying that cargo piracy is bad for an not-so-nice faction is wrong and is like saying Police demanding contraband is wrong. Oh my God, what have you been taking, mate?
What's next? Pirates saying sorry and demanding 500k just because asking one, two millions from a trader with a lot of money and valuable cargo is hurting traders' feeling?
(03-21-2016, 11:00 AM)Antonio Wrote: What else did you expect? You asked the worse demand there is within the rules, and judging by the RP he provided before the demand you did it on a new player as well. There's no one to blame but you here.
The "drop all your cargo" line is the best you can get in terms of blue messages, even though I never understood why would you specifically log to blue message transports. Pretty sure 95% of the people will never drop all their cargo, and for obvious reasons. It's a disgusting demand and you should feel bad.
I don´t see any attempt to negotiate from the trader, not to mention attempt to cruise/thrust away. Also stop blaming pirate that he behaved like a pirate. Or are pirates expected to ask only demands like "Give me 10 percent of you cargo but only if you are okay with it" these days because they should be "fair pirates"?
The person probably wanted to earn money for more ships/chars/armour/etc.
Your demand was basically stealing all that potential profit, leaving him/her in a negative, and giving him/her time to waste of flying back / flying to the destination and buying once again.
It's easier to just die and get teleported so you can retry. Really, that's why I dislike cargo piracy in general. It's too punishing and the other party rarely gets any benefit from it (since they're likely in snubs).
Die-hard RPers will try to negotiate their way out of it, people who don't really have patience for trading would rather not prolong their goal to getting that money for something they actually enjoy.
My two cents. Some people fly traders to earn money to RP, rather than RP while earning money.
(03-21-2016, 11:13 AM)Ramke Wrote: Some people fly traders to earn money to RP, rather than RP while earning money.
This is roleplaying server, Ramke. Basically, what you said right now is trying to deny pirates to roleplay pirates. Also, I doubt level 70-80 players cannot afford anything and they need credits urgently. Traders, contrary to the popular belief, are not exempt from roleplaying.
Asking for the guys entire cargo is a prat move, your basically demanding he wastes his time and you're incredulous that he didn't want to play ball? I'm all for cargo piracy, heck I have a character dedicated to buying pirated cargo but antagnoising the source of your activity is not a good idea, if you want to haggle start at half next time.
(03-21-2016, 11:13 AM)Ramke Wrote: It's easier to just die and get teleported so you can retry. Really, that's why I dislike cargo piracy in general. It's too punishing and the other party rarely gets any benefit from it (since they're likely in snubs).
Well, it's a roleplay server. If someone is pirating you, deal with it. You can't always be the winner, because if that is the case, no one would play a pirate anymore. I know, it's annoying for the transport player, but everyone is aware of that able to happen. Hiring an escort, negotiating, taking save routes, calling for help and buy time, that's all possible. I agree, it's uncool to ask for the full cargo, but if a pirate player is playing pirate for making money, he is wrong. In fact, you earn the most money by being a trader/miner (or Code-Trader). Pirates want to play pirates for roleplay OR for PvP - you can guess they don't want you to PvP if you're a trade ship. So if you're a trader, chances are big you won't loose everything when trying to negotiate, because even the pirate want's you to have a good time.
I said bordeworlds are not kindergarden and when players leave their safe space, especially in well-prepared ship with a lot of credits by merely looking at their level, they know they might be pirated. And cargo piracy makes more sense than being wired credits what leaves the digital footprint.
You know what? I'm done. I'm not going to roleplay pirate from now, because trying to roleplay it on a roleplaying server gets stomped, shunned upon and is treated like being scumbag.
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