Before you continue, as far as I was told, the base belonged properly to Laz and was not actually sabotage and destroyed, but rather Laz and Erato got to sick and tired of simply supplying it on their own and, if I recall correctly, told this to Lyth several times and eventually the two removed the gear off it and put it away and let the base die, simply because it was to much of a hassle to up keep
I should personally know because Laz handed me a Core transport and I did help him supply it off and on, and the three of us sometimes spent HOURS grinding away but eventually felt it was unneeded to keep going with as no one else bothered to use it and there was no actual other reason to keep it around, so I think it was around a month or two before Laz even got banned, that five players (not including me but I was on TS at the time) stripped the base of everything that was on it and it was left to die.
Heck, I recall at one point Lyth AND Laz both asking the Order to go in and destroy Invicta because it was to much of a problem for them to up keep anyways.
So before you think about restoring it, please do ask around as to why it was originally destroyed and you'll discover that its location to supply it and the materials needed for the mods were so far away, that it was inconceivable to keep Invicta up so it was, formost, even by Core members, destroyed at it was to much of a problem to supply and keep up
Minor edit: The base was completely stripped yet it was never sieged, I'm sure Wesker can remember even how on TS, sometimes it was noted, that, shockingly, the dying base was still standing by even me, Laz and other people. While it was, yes, stripped, the base itself slowly died off as for the simple fact that me, Erato and Laz didn't feel the need to remove the shield fuel and repair stuff as it would of just taken forever
2nd Edit: Yes, 5000 crew were added but I can confirm that this was not by me, Laz, Lyth or anyone in the Core as I was PERSONALLY called in to help keep the base up after that. The base itself, while yes, did have 5k crew at one point, was quickly removed and sold off. The base itself did die of its own starvation but not from crew, it died simply because no one could be bugged to supply a base in the butt end of nowhere.
Now remember, this is before Rho linked to the Sigma's and Core ships got attacked without mercy. This made practically supplying the base not only infeasible, but also impossible when the stuff you need for it to survive was not even in the Omicrons or close and the upgrade stuff was no where even close. At the end the base was, yes, stripped, but this is before Laz got banned, it was stripped and I could ask Laz or Erato as to why and they'd tell you the same. Erato was the first to get tired of it, followed by me then Laz so we just gave up and let the damn thing eventually die then just stay up all hours of the night to grind to keep a Core 3 base alive
Last edit: Implosion, if you got proof that is from Lyth or Laz (I'm very much aware of who you ask for this stuff) about as to why the base was destroyed and they gave you something else as you sent, then you should also be informed that the base itself, as the admin provided, died 5 days AFTER Laz was banned, basically meaning that the proof you got from them as well is invalid. As I kindly provided above, the base was stripped around April I think and left with the building supplies on it. Yes 5k crew were added in hopes of speeding up the bases death which it indeed did do for us. There was no hostile intent or anything else other then the bases owner, who funny enough was Laz himself, the LEADER OF THE CORE'S TRADE SQUAD at that time, decided to nuke the base then keep it around.
I do hope you kept in mind, since the base was Laz and not actually Core's, he had more free will to do with the base that he wanted to, the only other person with admin access to the base was Lyth, other wise the base was indeed fully Laz's and not the Core's, whoever told you otherwise is wrong. I get that, yes, it had a cloaking facility on it and you used it to supply the Core with money and stuff, but the base, never the less, was nuked.
Oh and I should add, the Order did locate the base when it was dying, I did personally when we did attack Rho like, back in July or something, but we never did siege it once. Yes we had the plan to but we never actually did.
The base, at the end was destroyed by its owner, Laz, who didn't wish any longer to keep it alive as it was to much of a problem for us to handle. Laz even said SEVERAL times on TS that Invicta was just a massive problem and I still recall where him and Erato were awake for hours on end to keep it alive.
I think its the 5th time this topic it's bring up and i hope will be for the last time
Base died after 7 days i restored the core shared ships and after 8 days laz was actually banned, so stop blaming everyone else but yourself for not wanting spending time to supply it
(11-18-2016, 04:08 PM)Piombo65 Wrote: Anyways... after all... there isn't any RP reasons that the base was destroyed!
It was not destroyed, it died due to lack of supplies.
Lack of supllies = destroyed.
Anyways there aren't RP reasons that the Core wanted to destroy it...
Every owner of POB which died because of lack of maintanmance (and majority of them die this way) could use this reason and ask admins to get his POB restored.
I'm thinking you peeps are missing my point.
The faction which owned the base (and don't give me all that "Laz was the owner." It was a Core base. Plenty of material on the forums.) was in complete disarray.
The shareds only got truly resorted when I took over a month ago or so and re-organized them. Mostly thanks to St. Denis which was kind enough to spend a few hours on that.
Obviously, it all can be traced back to a certain ban I'm not going to mention. Anyhow, I won't go there, it's not why I made this thread.
Invicta had massive amounts of RP behind it. There were plans for it, some rather ambitious.
(Keep in mind I wasn't active at that point, so I am going on stuff that I read on the forums and stuff other Core| members (and ex-members) have told me.)
Right, what's next. Ah yes.
Shiz, name one person who owns a base that has never said it's a burden.
I had one, I know how much time they suck away. Sure, you make cash, but it's not worth loosing your sleep over it. Especially when you have to run it by yourself.
But, I digress again.
The main purpose of this thread was to understand why it's possible to restore a base that was Sieged and Destroyed (Everyone's doing a whopping good job at avoiding that question.)
I had this hunch Invicta wouldn't be restored even before I posted the initial request.
Hell, I hesitated a lot before I posted this thread too. I'm not the kind of a person that likes to generate drama or draw attention.
I realize it's a salty thread and I won't even try to deny it. But if bases are going to be restored, either create a set of guidelines or requirements or don't restore them at all.
This kind of threads can be easily avoided if things were more transparent.
In my view if one does something that harms someone else and their work, that they did honestly, with abusive and rule breaking methods, then their methods should not be honored and the work they did using those rule-breaking methods should reverted.
Basically... I would say bringing back bases that was brought down via rule breaking should be brought back.
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