About rule 3.2

[Manwe]

The problem is that in RP, you are right. However, would you call a thirteen-year-old a whore (just an example) and whatnot to their face? Uh, that's a no-no, so as in-RP as such things might be, RL > FL.

EDIT: Nice hypercube, by the way.

That's exactly my point.

It's not about what is wrong or right for a 10 years old person to hear, but what the 'target public'

And I'll not define the 'target public' by age, I've seen many 40's that were not able to cross the line I'll get upon now.


While anywhere that requires RolePlay, you are NOT yourself.
Many people just tag RolePlaying as the act to act as someone else, but yet this is being you acting like someone else, this is faking a new personality, pretending to be someone else.

Roleplaying is not about pretending being someone else, but consciently givin up your personality and BEING someone else for all the time long that you is Roleplaying. And once made it you are not anymore a 12 or 80 years old person but a mighty pilot of Kusari Naval Forces, or a bloddy Xeno Terrorist.

And if you are NOT yourself, you cannot get offended.


Jumping this discussion to another lvl. What is the problem of swearing in a game where we LET 13 year old children to become TERRORISTS, PIRATES and Alien conscience that want to blow up the whole human race?

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"Where you belong, when you walked every world?"

"The point is not being crazy, is making you believe I'm." Random though

[Jihadjoe]

Now... I have said this before in various threads about swearing. I disagree with swearing in this game, there be children about.

However, I think there is far more to be worried about regarding those same young minds than a few cuss-words. For instance, the scream of panic you hear when you blast an NPC. The fact that when you destory a ship, you are condemning the pilot to die in the freezing vacuum. The racial stereotypes presented, the themes of drug use and addiction.

This is a massively violent game whether you liek it or not, and swearing is not nearly as horrific as people dying... I ejoy a good swear in my own time, but I choose not to force that on other people, by doing so in a game which has no censorship. However if people are offended by people swearing I think they need to look at the wider issues explored by the games they play and the tv they watch and the music they listen to. Perhaps then they'll stopplaying morality police for a bit and look at the things they take for granted as ok to depict.

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[Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever]

if you really do think about it, wouldnt captains cuss? i mean really the NPCs do it.
"Ok, drop the cargo" "No way in hell your getting my cargo" i heard it from a hogosha scanning a KNF...
System chat swearing is a no no, but group and private is fine...

[n00bl3t]

That bastard just killed one of my men!

Ass - spelt "Arse" - is part of the game, there is a BPA rumour where he calles the Gaians a "Pain in the arse"
Its in the game...

as is "bastards" as someone else pointed out earlier.

Juni calls Walker a son of a bitch too.

And plus, game experience is meant to change in online play. The disclaimer does exist. However, I personally prefer not swearing my head off.

The problem is that in RP, you are right. However, would you call a thirteen-year-old a whore (just an example) and whatnot to their face? Uh, that's a no-no, so as in-RP as such things might be, RL > FL.

EDIT: Nice hypercube, by the way.

Fourth dimension is time?

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[Linkus]

I highly doubt any child that has the mental capacity to use the forums properly and FL properly will be shocked to see a minor swear word or two while they are playing. They hear it in school, they hear from their friends, they hear it from themselves. I'm 17 and from the age of say 10, swearing became a common occurance in school. Hell I could rattle off a few interesting ones know that would definately not be called minor. I don't swear in real life at all really, only if something really does get to me (Both happy and sad, they are more words for exclaiming something that simply damning it, for me anyway)

As has been said, Freelancer is a violent game. You fly around in your heavily armed spacecraft, causing death and destruction wherever you go (Think SP) and come up against an enemy that intends to destroy the entire human race. Not only that, but it is littered with drug use, criminal activities, sexual suggestions and swearing.
Given that description, you would not think that Freelancer would be a game for your ikkle children.

Swearing 24/7 in system chat would get a little boring to be honest, and people unuse to it would probably get insulted (If you didn't know better).
Perhaps allow some minor swearing, with warnings given instead of bans etc. Keep it somewhat strict though, with so many people it can be a slippery slope. You wouldn't get people being called bastards etc constantly because the flaming rules still apply.

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[bluntpencil2001]

It requires maturity to understand the depravity involved with the use of foul language (and I don't mean pigeons).

That is why the young are so cavalier about a lot of things that adults consider reprehensible.

Also, quantity is not a logical justification for anything. Theft happens a lot also, but it's still wrong. Cursing causes a depraved attitude in your own mind, and contributes to it in the mind of those who hear it. It is the verbal equivalent of pornography, which takes something holy and perverts it into something selfish and despicable. The words themselves are just sound waves, but the intent behind them is to create something unwholesome and harmful, and that is why cursing is wrong. That is why you are motivated to curse when you are experiencing negative emotions instead of positive emotions. You wouldn't hear a bride curse during the joy of her wedding ceremony, now would you? And if you did, a normal conscience would see something wrong in it.

Additionally, by cursing, you are forcing someone else to experience the negativity of your own emotions, and you don't have the moral right to do that, anymore than you have the moral right to insult someone's mother.

I do believe that this is a rather black-and-white, polarised view of something very minor. I know plenty of people of all ages that curse, yet have never committed a crime on their lives. It is not 'perverted' or 'depraved'. People don't only curse when experiencing negative emotions either. To some it is second nature.

Saying it is immature is also rather insulting to adults that may in fact be very grown up but happen to speak diferently from oneself.

To be honest, this sort of stance annoys me a lot more than any four letter word I can think of.

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