-keep out of omicron 100!-

[ryoken]

Yup I agree. No point arguing. Let's just blow all the trader's to hell,and back. After it become's non profitable to do the run they will stop i am sure.
Never understand why people power trade my self. It is SOO boring. My trader pick's up a load,looks to where i get best price, and go there. Then i get a new load, and do the same. I never go through Guard system's (my choice to risky) and alway's pay a pirate when encountered.(my whale has no gun's).
This is called RP. It take's me alot longer to get a huge bank roll yes. But that is not the point of the game.Not a race to get the biggest, baddest ship.
I may have a couple cap's YES, but they took me over a year of RP, and help from a faction i was second in charge of for awhile to get them.
I also have enough cash to go buy the biggest trader/BS/cruiser/B cruiser/desi/GB/Bomber/fighter i choose.

ship's i own.
BH BS (1 of the smallest BS's)
Pirate cruiser(not great fits char)
Whale (no gun's, not biggest hold)
BH GB (fits my BH RP)
Armoured transport (zoner ID/TAG storage ship)
Saber (outcast char no surprise there)
Hessien very H fighter ( can't remember name Bundshah char)
Arrow (merc char)

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[ryoken]

As for Alaska. try not having all of the liberty law hanging out at Manhattin.(not all do it but most).
I have also seen many SA/LSF say i am alone so i will stay here at manhattin until back up show's up.
That just scream's Let's smuggle to alaska the law don't care. And beleive me. If my Whale is around i will grabbing something to Crete so i can get Artifact's back.
And any one who say's LSF does not have the man power should have seen the 9 LSF/SA bomber's/fighter's/GB's/CRuiser?B cruiser, and yes a dread chase my lone junker through 2 JH's and into the badland's Just to Kill me.

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[stone]

Yup I agree. No point arguing. Let's just blow all the trader's to hell,and back. After it become's non profitable to do the run they will stop i am sure.
Never understand why people power trade my self. It is SOO boring. My trader pick's up a load,looks to where i get best price, and go there. Then i get a new load, and do the same. I never go through Guard system's (my choice to risky) and alway's pay a pirate when encountered.(my whale has no gun's).
This is called RP. It take's me alot longer to get a huge bank roll yes. But that is not the point of the game.Not a race to get the biggest, baddest ship.
I may have a couple cap's YES, but they took me over a year of RP, and help from a faction i was second in charge of for awhile to get them.
I also have enough cash to go buy the biggest trader/BS/cruiser/B cruiser/desi/GB/Bomber/fighter i choose.

ship's i own.
BH BS (1 of the smallest BS's)
Pirate cruiser(not great fits char)
Whale (no gun's, not biggest hold)
BH GB (fits my BH RP)
Armoured transport (zoner ID/TAG storage ship)
Saber (outcast char no surprise there)
Hessien very H fighter ( can't remember name Bundshah char)
Arrow (merc char)

Like i said 3 or 4 times im not a power trader or a cap Whore i don't even own a cap ship and have no plan on it, the largest ship in my fleet is a gunboat i just smuggle to have fun. funfunfunfun

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[Heartless]

ok, I don't feel like reasing 9 pages of this but here's what I'll say:

1) If an enemy of the Order goes through 100 without having the NPC's shooting them, report that player.
2) Bs| Omicron 100 rules say they get 30 seconds... hell kill them right away. Most of them have been warned various times and they all know, so any smugglers and hostiles to the Order are to be shot on site, and neutral or friendly who are not Order ID'd and Tagged get 30 seconds to leave (through the way they came), if they don't, kill them.
3) Reminder, only Order id'd and tagged ships are allowed into 100. The exceptions are factioned allies such as the TBH.

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SwissScorch --> Heartless

[ryoken]

ok, I don't feel like reasing 9 pages of this but here's what I'll say:

1) If an enemy of the Order goes through 100 without having the NPC's shooting them, report that player.
2) Bs| Omicron 100 rules say they get 30 seconds... hell kill them right away. Most of them have been warned various times and they all know, so any smugglers and hostiles to the Order are to be shot on site, and neutral or friendly who are not Order ID'd and Tagged get 30 seconds to leave (through the way they came), if they don't, kill them.
3) Reminder, only Order id'd and tagged ships are allowed into 100. The exceptions are factioned allies such as the TBH.

/signed

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[gafwmn]

Finally..somebody who understands how I feel about the amount of traffic in/out of Alaska.And yet they still whine when they get killed.

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[ryoken]

Finally..somebody who understands how I feel about the amount of traffic in/out of Alaska.And yet they still whine when they get killed.

I understand your position mate. I also pilot the liberty cruiser STORMCROW. I have also chased smuggler's in Alaska along side you. It can get frustrating, but it is a game,and some power game. Our job is to guard alaska, and we do what we can, with what we have.:cool:

This is why i am making an Order char.This way i can stop both cardi, and artifact smuggler's. Both in O-100, and Alaska. This does not mean my order char will enter Alaska, or my Liberty navy Char will enter O-100. They will stay where they belong, and be completly seperate char's.

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[Tenacity]

Finally..somebody who understands how I feel about the amount of traffic in/out of Alaska.And yet they still whine when they get killed.

Remember a long while back, there was this LSF gunboat named Virago?

Yea, that was me, and I kept plenty of smugglers and traders out of alaska at the time. I also raised hell on the forums here to try and get it stopped, to no effect.

Back then, even you didnt patrol alaska as much as you do now =P

The big excuse these smugglers use is "well, we're not breaking server rules, so if you want to stop us you have to defend the systems yourself!"...

Probelm is, there really arent enough players to keep constant post in those systems. I'm one of the only order players who actually cares about stopping smugglers - the rest seem to run off and kill nomads all day long instead of going after these guys.

If we had people constantly posted in omicron minor, omicron 100, and alaska who all put in the effort to stop smugglers and traders from using those systems, it wouldnt be a problem. They'd die enough times that they'd start using other routes.


Oh, and to SwissScorch - I dont give anyone 30 seconds. The instant I see that someone isnt using a zoner/order/corsair ID and they're in O-100, they're dead. I dont give them warning, I dont give them a chance to turn around, I just open fire until their ship crumbles to little bitty peices.

It may not be very 'sporting' of me, and it may make me look like a jerk or pvp whore, but it's pretty clear that guard systems are an exception when it comes to pvp. Anyone passing through a guard system without a very good reason, and without being allied to that system's owning faction, is KOS.



EDIT:

I do think it was a bit much that stone/solarsz brought an outcast destroyer and gunboat in with him after I told him he wasnt welcome in order space... then again, it's also hilarious that someone as horrible at pvp as myself was able to chase off both of those escorts alone, with nothing more than standard order turrets and a zoner destroyer.

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[AdamantineFist]

Well, the only thing we can really do is blast all of them to pieces. Not really much else to do about it. I'll keep an eye out from now on for whether or not smugglers are enemied to the Guard now, though. Never thought about that before.

Interestingly enough, I once managed to nearly get through the system in a Starflier, dodging fire and hoping like hell that they wouldn't manage to land more than one shot on me at once. Got to the jump hole to Major, and JUST as I hit the dock button I took a double-hit from a weapons platform. Blew me to little tiny Starflea bits. Admittedly I had a Mk VIII armour upgrade on that Starflier when I did that, but still...

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[Tenacity]

Interestingly enough, I once managed to nearly get through the system in a Starflier, dodging fire and hoping like hell that they wouldn't manage to land more than one shot on me at once. Got to the jump hole to Major, and JUST as I hit the dock button I took a double-hit from a weapons platform. Blew me to little tiny Starflea bits. Admittedly I had a Mk VIII armour upgrade on that Starflier when I did that, but still...

If you've seen my borderworlds news network post, you'll notice the recorded omicron alpha battle between corsairs/outcasts at the bottom of the thread...

My camera ship was parked on the isis at the time that battle started. Once I found out about it, I quickly jumped over to the camera character (BWN_Camera1) and tried to take the omicron 100 route up to alpha... it was rough.

Even with 15,000 armor on that invisible starflea, I barely managed to get through 100 alive.

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