Dumb stuff harms the game

[Shinju]

One would believe that after so many years you would know how Weapon platforms work though. So many ways how to defend your PoB making it invulnerable, yet you will try to do all but solve it in game.

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[Reddy]

if you don't put platforms on your base and it dies, it's your fault

again, 2 cerb platforms, 1 zapper platform, combined with 2 players, can break nearly any siege fleet

if you don't put in the "effort" to protect your base, you probably shouldn't be surprised when it starts to explode

^This tbh
weapon platforms increase survivability of a pob. that being said the whole pob plugin should be reworked from the ground up. The pvp involved in sieges is a bad one. fair play and good sportsmanship are out the window and its everything goes, there is no middle ground.

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[Paddy.]

weapon platforms increase the survivability of a pob. that being said the whole pob plugin should be reworked from the ground up. The pvp involved in sieges is a bad one. fair play and good sportsmanship are out the window and everything goes, there is no middle ground.

I agree and the destruction of Goldgeist, Clew Bay, and Durham in what... three days? With Eldorado next? Where is the RP? Where is the fair play? This isn't right to do wholesale destruction with wanton abandon.

I really hope the GM gets involved and does right by the community.

[Shinju]

They wuold get involved if somebody broke the rules, nobody did.

You are still trying to blame others and search for higher powers just because you didn't protect your PoB as it should be. Weapon platforms and such stuff. There is the reason why some survive and some don't. I still fail to see some incredible RP done around Goldgheist also.

Anyway speaking about fair play, how come some PoBs are basically indestructible? Where is the fair play here?

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[Monsieur Baguette]

weapon platforms increase the survivability of a pob. that being said the whole pob plugin should be reworked from the ground up. The pvp involved in sieges is a bad one. fair play and good sportsmanship are out the window and everything goes, there is no middle ground.

I agree and the destruction of Goldgeist, Clew Bay, and Durham in what... three days? With Eldorado next? Where is the RP? Where is the fair play? This isn't right to do wholesale destruction with wanton abandon.

I really hope the GM gets involved and does right by the community.

As it was pointed out by the staff, there is no requirement regarding the RP. You can blame the lack of RP on the attackers side, the attackers can blame the lack of the RP on the defenders side. This situation is definitely outside the scope of GMs' responsibilities. Suck it up, and next time, should you decide to build a POB, build it in a more secure place and care to protect it with weapon platforms. Markam gave a good point - there are plenty of POBs in New London that are 1 jump away and are secure from sieges.

[WesternPeregrine]

They've been doing stuff like this for the past 4 weeks. Now that it affects some blokes in Bretonia, now it's worth crying about?
They play by the disadvantages of their opponents, and the weaknesses of the pob system. They abide by the rules to the minimum required, and carry on with their aims, whether you can counter it or not.

As you can see in the thread, some people think pobs are bad, and will press on the flawed mechanics to present their opinion and detract the enjoyment of others who do employ its use. Until the gameplay system is reworked, or the team gives up on it and disables the pobs , they will keep blowing them up.

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[Shiki]

I mean, what is happening is perfectly inRP. I just like how you try to imply that Gallic Roaylists can tolerate or negotiate with POB that is having BMM- in its name. Paddy, you are the one who started to contact attacking parties without actually being notified inRP about the attack. And us NOT sieging it would be out of character, I don't know if you are ware, but there's a state of war between Gallic Royalists and Bretonia.

You see only positive sides of all those POBs around, but with POB spam that happened in the system during the recent years it's actually not as great for everyone. There are also negative impacts on unlawful activities since a number of POBs was very close to the mining zone, lonely mining and shipping without actually interacting with anyone. You may also imply that sieging bases require no effort while it's a lot of dedication and work in terms of coordination from a lot of players.

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[Shiki]

I understand that it sucks to lose stuff, but please draw the line between ingame assets and being personally offended. It is the game and the fact that this thread got 17 pages of mostly unironic posting indicates that some people are forgetting about this fact.

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[Paddy.]

They wuold get involved if somebody broke the rules, nobody did.

You are still trying to blame others and search for higher powers just because you didn't protect your PoB as it should be. Weapon platforms and such stuff. There is the reason why some survive and some don't. I still fail to see some incredible RP done around Goldgheist also.

Anyway speaking about fair play, how come some PoBs are basically indestructible? Where is the fair play here?

You have totally missed the point.

In your experience, you have not benefitted from Goldgeist in any way it seems. Unlike you, many, many players have indeed found it useful.

But it being beneficial is well beyond the point being made. It is not about privilege, or sucking up to a higher power, or any other "dumb stuff" that people want to throw in. It is about the community and the harm it causes by having 2-3 years of investment, toil and costs go down the gurgler in less than half a day by "giggling gigolo's" who cannot see or chose to ignore the actual harm it does with (quoting here) " a small tiny myopic group of players who cannot see the full picture and the unnecessary negativity generated by a piss-poor decision to take it out with piss-poor RP".

[Groshyr]

If Saronsen can manage to muster enough people to defend a meaningless PoB in New York that didn't really benefit anyone, then surely one would think that you people can make a Discord or whatever and gather enough people to defend your "meaningful" PoB properly, as has been done several times.

Off-time Siegers are whack but that doesn't change the fact that what they do is in fact not forbidden and there really is no reason for GM's to interfere

Despite me having not the best impression about Saroncen, he managed to come on LSF ships to Bretonia & successfully defend their base at least at once.

Maybe the gamemasters can make a trade event out of this, helping the communitiy rebuilding all the stuff in Bretonia, especially Dublin.

Imagine making an event for the house that participated in at least 2 events last month.