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Offline Sniper
09-07-2020, 09:59 AM,
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(09-07-2020, 09:45 AM)Gardarik Wrote: Lack of any RP contribution of a POB that was not even letting indie AIs on combined with system-wide ooRP messages and mucho RP is definitely speaking for the necessity of such POB's existence. Good riddance

I have no idea what you just said. Makes no sense.
Offline Lemon
09-07-2020, 10:01 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-07-2020, 10:32 AM by Lemon.)
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I sieged both bases and you can see in this thread that I was against sieging.
Niobium Ore
- I was leading the Enclave defense of the Base. We repelled siegers over and over maybe 15 times. There was 0 chance of the Base being in any sort of danger.

And I understand the owner is a beginner and made a big mistake of instead of thanking me and others and sticking with it, started wanting to be friends with the same siegers, apparently not knowing we were defending the Base from them over and over, ugh. And so my first siege ever started.



Tur Ladir, same thing - the defenders never even tried to contact the sieging faction to ask for a deal in rp (IE). Instead they accepted Aux defense, wiped the attackers numerous times (with help of us nomads - we just saw red so we kill. It happened to be corsairs and order) and only when they realised that will fail started a flurry of oorp behavior in the system, with only a single RP response to a corsair that's not even affiliated with the sieging unofficial faction...



FYI, I play AI a lot and I didn't like the base personally so both defended and sieged it. And was constantly trying to organise nomad and The Core wiping parties because they just should do that no matter if they like a Base or not.

I just think that if you have a Base on top of a Base or directly at the exit of a planet, you can't keep it as your personal storage not dockable to the faction as default - you are now part of the Base more or less. The OC Base in O.Tau does it right - no WP so doesn't disrupt PvP, and buys Sci data and pilots at great prices - helping indies of the whole faction. I doubt it will ever go down and me and many others will defend it 24/7. I wanted to suggest A.I. Themselves siege the Kappa Base actually before.

And yes if FP11 POB gets sieged, I will be first in line to attack it for the same reasons - disrupting PvP, not letting indies dock while being part of an existing Base.
Offline Groshyr
09-07-2020, 10:03 AM,
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It's quite amusing how you went that salty mode and forgot about "//" to exist at all, turning inRP local into ooRP zone



Lemon has a point. For once I have to agree with him
Offline Gardarik
09-07-2020, 10:10 AM,
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(09-07-2020, 09:59 AM)Sniper Wrote:
(09-07-2020, 09:45 AM)Gardarik Wrote: Lack of any RP contribution of a POB that was not even letting indie AIs on combined with system-wide ooRP messages and mucho RP is definitely speaking for the necessity of such POB's existence. Good riddance

I have no idea what you just said. Makes no sense.

Sapienti sat.
Offline Sniper
09-07-2020, 10:34 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-07-2020, 10:35 AM by Sniper.)
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(09-07-2020, 10:01 AM)Relation-Ship Wrote: Tur Ladir, same thing - the defenders never even tried to contact the sieging faction to ask for a deal in rp (IE). Instead they accepted Aux defense, wiped the attackers numerous times (with help of us nomads - we just saw red so we kill. It happened to be corsairs and order) and only when they realised that will fail started a flurry of oorp behavior in the system, with only a single RP response to a corsair that's not even affiliated with the sieging unofficial faction...

I looked at the pathetic amount of RP with regards to Tur Laidir. ONE piece. It is called METAGAMING to use that ONE piece of weak RP to contact the SAME Russian-Mafia Hoodlums that did over Dublin,

Your comment about Tur Laidir NOT allowing any other AI on is silly. I understand it was put there FOR all of them to use, which was common knowledge. Did you actually ask to get your AI ship added? It was maintained by a number of AI players indie and tagged... an AI Freeport if you will.

Oh look! Groshyr posted SIX Attack Threads... just another piss-of-players-like-Dublin sh**fest.

WHEN ARE THE GAME MASTERS GOING TO STEP IN AND FINALLY SORT THIS BEHAVIOUR OUT???
Online Kauket
09-07-2020, 10:34 AM,
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(09-07-2020, 09:45 AM)Gardarik Wrote: Lack of any RP contribution of a POB that was not even letting indie AIs on combined with system-wide ooRP messages and mucho RP is definitely speaking for the necessity of such POB's existence. Good riddance

Traders don't roleplay either. Maybe we should delete them.

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Offline Gardarik
09-07-2020, 10:45 AM,
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(09-07-2020, 10:34 AM)Kauket Wrote:
(09-07-2020, 09:45 AM)Gardarik Wrote: Lack of any RP contribution of a POB that was not even letting indie AIs on combined with system-wide ooRP messages and mucho RP is definitely speaking for the necessity of such POB's existence. Good riddance

Traders don't roleplay either. Maybe we should delete them.

So be it, delete them. Delete everything.
//some traders do RP tho
Offline Mephistoles
09-07-2020, 10:53 AM,
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Getting a bit tired of all this now.

Player bases can be sieged.

Get over it.

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Offline Lemon
09-07-2020, 10:57 AM,
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(09-07-2020, 10:34 AM)Sniper Wrote:
(09-07-2020, 10:01 AM)Relation-Ship Wrote: Tur Ladir, same thing - the defenders never even tried to contact the sieging faction to ask for a deal in rp (IE). Instead they accepted Aux defense, wiped the attackers numerous times (with help of us nomads - we just saw red so we kill. It happened to be corsairs and order) and only when they realised that will fail started a flurry of oorp behavior in the system, with only a single RP response to a corsair that's not even affiliated with the sieging unofficial faction...

I looked at the pathetic amount of RP with regards to Tur Laidir. ONE piece. It is called METAGAMING to use that ONE piece of weak RP to contact the SAME Russian-Mafia Hoodlums that did over Dublin,

Your comment about Tur Laidir NOT allowing any other AI on is silly. I understand it was put there FOR all of them to use, which was common knowledge. Did you actually ask to get your AI ship added? It was maintained by a number of AI players indie and tagged... an AI Freeport if you will.

Oh look! Groshyr posted SIX Attack Threads... just another piss-of-players-like-Dublin sh**fest.

WHEN ARE THE GAME MASTERS GOING TO STEP IN AND FINALLY SORT THIS BEHAVIOUR OUT???
Point is, you shouldn't need to ask to get your ship added. You build a base on top of an existing faction's base I believe you should be obliged to make it an extension of it, provide service like buying pilots and sci-data when there's cap missions, or build it the hell somewhere else if it doesn't serve a useful purpose to the faction.
And you absolutely should make it automatically accessible to he faction itself, maybe even dockable to everyone who can dock on the original base. I really hope bases like Dabadoru and FP11 PoBs that just disrupt PvP, make people try to trigger CD hostility and don't let the faction dock as default get taken down sooner or later.

Also - come on, you complain about ONE PIECE OF RP. I see ZERO forum RP sent at IE the attackers? Just a very delayed and negative response to a different corsair group? Thing is, the owners decide to go the hostile + defense route with enemy factions, a fair (well, besides usual siege shenanigans like a repair ship, SHF and memeboats usages) siege and defense race, where attackers were just more committed and won. If they went the peaceful route, decided to RP at IE with offers and concessions then it would be plausible GMs to step in if roleplay was refused.

Not doing any RP and then OORP spamming all chat in the system (including when PvP dead) when Auxesia gives up is definitely not grounds for complaining
Online Kauket
09-07-2020, 11:03 AM,
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Nobody has done any RP surrounding the base except for pepe and ingame. Also we knew that the base was gonna die anyway, part of the fun was the shooting

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