' Wrote:Don't know every detail about the DW/Harvester thing going on in O-15, but i have to dissagree with your reasoning. Harv's operate from Junker bases, theres a Junker base in O-15, i dont see it as camping out in the system when Junkers are thier allies and bornholme is basically the only junker base not in a main house system. One could say DW is camping O-15 because they are at Rostock, when BH missions are offered basically everywhere, but i won't, because Rostock is a BH base, and therefore a place they can and should be seen operating. Just as Harvesters operate and do missions from Junker/Corsair bases and they may be seen around them or in those systems.
BH missions can be done from just about any Zoner base (nearly all are in non-house space), and from Planet Grand Canaria, which is WAY out away from house space and in my opinion is the best place to do BH missions besides Freeport 9 or 11.
Your right here. Terms like "Toaster" and "Must be another drone, KILL IT!!!" come to mind. Because that is the type of message we usually see, if anything at all, just before someone opens fire on us for no real reason. I also find it more than a coincidence that even when trying to RP a semi-lawful robot that dont fire on anyone first, most of the attacks come from bounty hunters or by the police/navy in house space. So its those lawful's who attacked us in the past, over and over again for no real reason, that have pushed us to becomming generally speaking, unlawful, even though we (atleast in Binary's case) are rarely the attackers.
There are several reasons robots/machines would be hostile to BH/Mercs, in the simplest form BH kill for fun/glory/profit, rather than to survive, like most living things. I would like to assume that by default robots would be lawful, programmed or wanting to protect human life unless they were "abused" and turned into killerbots. We are unfriendly/hostile to outcasts because of the cardamine and thier reverance of the nomads, an even greater threat to humans now than they ever were in SP. Could you imagine the entire cardamine fueled outcast population becomming infested because of thier proximity and tolerance of the nomads. Now that could be a BIG problem could it not? Not to mention the wild in the omega's, our preverbial backyard. Robots/Machines can't really be "infested" by a nomad so they make perfect soldiers against them. Some realise this and allow us passage, use of thier ships/bases, or even ally with us.
Zoners, in my opinion, they abandoned Gammu and the robots, and we didnt like it too much. So they get to be Neutral/Unfriendly at best. Plus the thing that happened with the harvesters made it worse. So they are Neutral in my book, as Zoners should be.
Does that make any sense at all?
To me it does i bet the order like or at least tolerate robots/AI's
Ive had enough of disco for now. I might be back at the next mod release.
The Master of all things cyborg
' Wrote:BHG were used as troops in the Harvester/Zoner war. Only after our war the BHG (not DW) stayed hostile.
We did not see a difference in one BHG from another they were all apart of one animal the BHG. Thus some unsuspecting DW were ambushed while we battled in Rhineland once. Since then and that was months ago, they are just as mad today as they were then.
And folks say we are relentless. Even the Harvesters have made peace with other factions. We just as a Rp componet of our faction see all members factionalized or not as part of one entity. Thus if BHG A plays nice on day 1 (no prob), then BHG B attacks us on day 2 (we fight back), then if we cross BHG A again he is treated like BHG B.
Ok, now I am really curious about this.
Where does it explain how BH were used by Zoners as troops?
Considering that Zoners strive to maintain a neutrality with all factions I would expect the "troops" to be used would be based on the location. If the location was Kappa then the "troops" would comprise of Order, Corsair, and Bounty Hunter. Zoners would wield any force they could against an entity that was attempting to take over their planet.
Quote:Ok, now I am really curious about this.
Where does it explain how BH were used by Zoners as troops?
Considering that Zoners strive to maintain a neutrality with all factions I would expect the "troops" to be used would be based on the location. If the location was Kappa then the "troops" would comprise of Order, Corsair, and Bounty Hunter. Zoners would wield any force they could against an entity that was attempting to take over their planet.
The location was Omega-49, Planet Grand Canaria, months ago. It was several Harvesters against a mixed fleet of Zoners and Bounty Hunters.
In my opinion the zoners abandoned Gammu and it was later rediscovered by the corsairs who left it as it was themselves. Why would anyone want a planet so filled with radiation that human life cannot survive there for long periods of time? It's a planet maintained by, protected by, aligned to, and owned by Robots as far as im concerned. The only reason it's aligned to zoners is because "Robots" arent an NPC faction, yet.
' Wrote:The location was Omega-49, Planet Grand Canaria, months ago. It was several Harvesters against a mixed fleet of Zoners and Bounty Hunters.
In my opinion the zoners abandoned Gammu and it was later rediscovered by the corsairs who left it as it was themselves. Why would anyone want a planet so filled with radiation that human life cannot survive there for long periods of time? It's a planet maintained by, protected by, aligned to, and owned by Robots as far as im concerned. The only reason it's aligned to zoners is because "Robots" arent an NPC faction, yet.
Who comprised the group of Zoners and who was the Bounty Hunters?
It was stated that this took place before DW arrived on the server so this "event" must have been from early last year. I am just wondering where the story is or was this some abstract RP event with the Harvesters attacking NPC Zoners and NPC BH?
Well im not sure of exact names or if it was written about in detail, but it was a planned RP event between the Harvesters and [TAZ]. 2-3 indy bounty hunters also joined in the battle. For a short time afterwards Harvies and TAZ had a skirmish here and there until eventually a ceasefire was agreed upon by both sides. Theyve kinda tried to steer clear of eachother ever since.
Zealot Wrote:Just go play the game and have fun dammit.
Treewyrm Wrote:all in all the conclusion is that disco doesn't need antagonist factions, it doesn't need phantoms, it doesn't need nomads, it doesn't need coalition and it doesn't need many other things, no AIs, the game is hijacked by morons to confuse the game with their dickwaving generic competition games mixed up with troll-of-the-day.
' Wrote:The GC distrust all A.Is after having had numerous bad encounters with the Harvesters in the past. So its really up to the A.Is to prove they're not a threat before they'll be left alone.
That's because most people didn't use thier brains in handling the situations with the Harvesters. If anything, they agravted the sistutations and made the matters worst.
Secondly....''Prove that they are not a threat BEFORE they will be left alone '' is a compleat formula for a disaster. That whole logic is counter productive and won't win friends.
Human: Look....a machine.....I never seen that before.......I'll pull out my gun and aim it at the machine that i haven't seen before.
Machine:
10:Scanning.
20:Scan finds weapon.
30: Is the weapon pointed at the machine? : If yes goto line 100 : If no, cont. to line 40
40: Continal normal program
100: Weapon pointed at machine , therefore User is hostile. -- Arm machine's weapon and fire weapons.
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