New Returning Player Aid

[Avalanche]

Edit: Proposal changed on 28-12-23. Instead of Proposal 1 overriding the current vet package, I've now included the current vet package alongside Proposal 1. This gives more choice to returning players and satisfies the current 16 votes split.

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Christmas week started and came back to see Wildkins updated Vet Aid. Kudos. Visually much easier to digest.

Miner, transport, fighter. Pretty sweet deal...

Vet: "I don't want to mine. I don't want to trade. I don't want to be a freelancer. No thanks, goodbye".

We can do better.

. Proposal 1 Give one (edit: or two) million credits. It's a much cooler offer. Scrap the predetermined ships. Don't funnel them to trade or mine. Encourage them to /restartme to their favourite part of Sirius and relive their experiences easily with a good amount of cash. They can more freely decide what to do then. .

. Proposal 2 No hidden player request. Want it? You post post publicly. Returning players is great advertisement for both current players and lurkers. I want to see every time a vet returns, it bumps this entire forum. Let's use it to create a buzz. Create conversation. .

Example in the post below:

[Avalanche]

Returning Player Aid

Welcome back, Freelancer.

Post in this thread to pick one of the following generous aid packages to support your return to our community.

Update v5 (released late 2023) reduced game prices. 100,000,000 credits when you likely last played is 1,000,000 today.

. Package One Retrofit transport Hegemon miner Falchion very heavy fighter 100,000 credits Pick your own ID/IFF for your ships and trade, mine & fight using these great beginner assets. .

. Package Two 2,000,000 credits Do you have a certain ship, faction, play style or event in mind? Use these credits to easily get started. Wikipedia ship list. .

• Events - Weekly events for everyone in the community to take part in
  
  
• Restart templates - Get started easily, anywhere in Sirius, with these restarts. Type "/restartme [code]"
  
  
• Navigation map - Discover what's changed and where you want to fly with our updated nav map
  
  
• New wikipedia - In construction but accurate. Search today's ships & equipment
  
  
• Download instructions - It's easier than ever to get Freelancer & Discovery mod on your PC

Note

• To qualify, you should not have been playing for one year and have few, if any, characters with a small total worth today.
  
• Want to return anomalously? Visit the Player Request subforum and create a thread stating your character name. It will be invisible to all but Discovery staff.

v.s. Today

[tommygun209]

1 mil is simply not enough. You can't even buy a Gunboat with this sum of money, while old package alllows you to get a unique ship, potentiallly worth 10 times that

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MacRory's Irregulars

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[Avalanche]

1 mil is simply not enough. You can't even buy a Gunboat with this sum of money, while old package alllows you to get a unique ship, potentiallly worth 10 times that

Unfortunately I don't play, so I'm just giving it a best guess. Proposal 1 is focused around cash rather than predetermined assets. Do you agree with P1 in principle and if so, what cash amount is better?

[Karpfen]

I returned recently and enjoyed to work my way up. However, I am aware more PVP-focussed players wouldn't like that. A sum of cash would be good. Maybe 2 mil, so that PVP-people can get a gunboat. For bigger ships I remember everyone had to get their cash somehow, it's not like it's impossible to earn credits.

[Charos]

As a returning vet, I found the current package a great way to engage back into active play as the numbers are much lower to bounty hunt/pirate or pvp in general. Trading helps you discover which parts of the game have been changed and perhaps give you a refreshing feel to help you decide where and how your future plays will take place.

I would like to see who returns so proposal 2 is for me.

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[tommygun209]

1 mil is simply not enough. You can't even buy a Gunboat with this sum of money, while old package alllows you to get a unique ship, potentiallly worth 10 times that

Unfortunately I don't play, so I'm just giving it a best guess. Proposal 1 is focused around cash rather than predetermined assets. Do you agree with P1 in principle and if so, what cash amount is better?

As Karpfen said, 2 mil should be enough, but it's still leaving you with almost empty pocket and without options to make money quickly. So I would say, that transport is still required for a vet pack, maybe with an opportunity to swap for hegemon/kamome on request, if the mining is more interesting for the returning player

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[St.Denis]

As Karpfen said, 2 mil should be enough, but it's still leaving you with almost empty pocket and without options to make money quickly. So I would say, that transport is still required for a vet pack, maybe with an opportunity to swap for hegemon/kamome on request, if the mining is more interesting for the returning player

2 million will easily pay for any 5ker, so I don't see why you would need 2 million and a Trader.

As for mining, it has been superseded by trading the HRCs, and only those dedicated miners bother, nowadays, to mine.

2 Million would be enough to basically buy you the 5ker and a few VHFs. This would remove the working up through the smaller ships. When I started I enjoyed working towards my next 'bigger' ship (and no it wasn't Caps) and had a sense of achievement.

You need to have the Players work towards something. Giving them everything on a silver platter just removes the investment.

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[Karpfen]

Yeah, and if people don't like to trade they can get a gunboat and collect cash thru police-bribes/fines or piracy. Slower but more fun for some people, maybe. And actually, the fines for shooting down hostile NPCs help with buying smaller craft.

[Dracarys]

1 mil is simply not enough. You can't even buy a Gunboat with this sum of money, while old package alllows you to get a unique ship, potentiallly worth 10 times that

I agree with this gentleman, it is simply not enough for old fellas I mean I haven't written yet for veteran aid I think I should.

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