[Official Event] Even Chance

[Eternal.Journey]

The Day I cannot be there due to Real Life Obligations.

Turns out I've managed to pull some time outta some magic hat. +1 Defender of Dublin.

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[Barrier]

Just wanted to post this here to make it clear that why I said the infinite respawns did not affect the last fight of the event. What they did do is allow some of the BAF side to regroup faster than normal, and in some cases switch their ship class.

[10.05.2025 20:32:45] Target group size: 18 (18 in space) - Molly side
[10.05.2025 20:32:47] Target group size: 13 (11 in space) - BAF side
[2025.05.10 20:40:11] Player Death: Mollystule was shot out of the skies by Insp.Sarah:McKinley(31%) Assisted by: GF:SEC)-CIara.Langley(23%), GF:SEC)-James.McCarthy(13%), total 65447
[2025.05.10 20:42:07] Player Death: RPA|Saoirse,Keane was shot out of the skies by GF:SEC)-Caherbarnagh(65%) Assisted by: HMS-Needle(15%), BAF|A-HMS-Hermione(13%), total 53603
[2025.05.10 20:42:59] Player Death: Mollyepigus was taken out by GF:SEC)-CIara.Langley(41%) Assisted by: GF:SEC)-Caherbarnagh(29%), GF:SEC)-Ightermurragh(15%), total 61512
[2025.05.10 20:43:56] Player Death: Red.Plight got divebombed by HMS-Needle(29%) Assisted by: HMS-Gipsy(24%), GF:SEC)-Ightermurragh(12%), total 439490
[2025.05.10 20:44:41] Player Death: RPA|PRW-Dierdre died to GF:SEC)-Caherbarnagh(42%) Assisted by: GF:SEC)-Ightermurragh(16%), HMS-Royal.Hand(12%), total 269347
[2025.05.10 20:45:10] Player Death: =ALF=CPG-Smertnik died to GF:SEC)-Carrigaline(52%) Assisted by: HMS-Mercy(22%), HMS-Royal.Hand(14%), total 265052
[2025.05.10 20:45:51] Player Death: Sabers|CPW-Kaspiysk was blown out of the stars by BAF|A-HMS-Hermione(27%) Assisted by: GF:SEC)-Carrigaline(16%), HMS-Mercy(14%), total 768831
[2025.05.10 20:47:46] Player Death: Morris.Plyer died to GF:SEC)-Ightermurragh(34%) Assisted by: GF:SEC)-Caherbarnagh(30%), Insp.Sarah:McKinley(19%), total 253183
[2025.05.10 20:47:51] Player Death: The.Fun.Destroyer's life support went offline thanks to HMS-Royal.Hand(25%) Assisted by: BAF|A-HMS-Hermione(22%), GF:SEC)-Carrigaline(19%), total 420662
[2025.05.10 20:48:44] Player Death: =ALF=CPW-Katioucha's life support went offline thanks to GF:SEC)-Carrigaline(38%) Assisted by: HMS-Royal.Hand(14%), HMS-Berkshire(12%), total 429592
[2025.05.10 20:49:06] Player Death: CNS-Angst's life support went offline thanks to DTR-CNS>Anne's_Revenge(100%), total 573060
[2025.05.10 20:49:10] Player Death: CPW-Oleg.Popov's life support went offline thanks to HMS-Gipsy(25%) Assisted by: GF:SEC)-Carrigaline(21%), HMS-Royal.Hand(17%), total 466995
[2025.05.10 20:49:17] Player Death: {LSOT>Husam perished at GF:SEC)-James.McCarthy's hands(52%) Assisted by: Insp.Sarah:McKinley(48%), total 21012
[2025.05.10 20:49:48] Player Death: GF:SEC)-Caherbarnagh died to =ALF=CPC-Balalaika(78%) Assisted by: CPW-Zamok(19%), total 42943
[2025.05.10 20:51:02] Player Death: =ALF=CPC-Balalaika perished at HMS-Needle's hands(32%) Assisted by: HMS-Gipsy(24%), HMS-Royal.Hand(16%), total 738803
[2025.05.10 20:51:27] Player Death: CPW-Zamok perished at HMS-Gipsy's hands(22%) Assisted by: GF:SEC)-Carrigaline(18%), GF:SEC)-Ightermurragh(11%), total 736814

As you can see, 15 Molly players died, and 1 BAF towards the end. If BAF had 30-minute respawns, this encounter would be the same, because none of the BAF side took advantage of them. But the perception of the engagement would have been different, which I cannot control, but hopefully can clarify. Essentially, the fight was a snowball, which can happen in any mixed fleet engagement. Don't feel bad if you are on the receiving end, it's not anything to do with your skills.

[L1ght]

Just wanted to post this here to make it clear that why I said the infinite respawns did not affect the last fight of the event. What they did do is allow some of the BAF side to regroup faster than normal, and in some cases switch their ship class.

[10.05.2025 20:32:45] Target group size: 18 (18 in space) - Molly side
[10.05.2025 20:32:47] Target group size: 13 (11 in space) - BAF side
[2025.05.10 20:40:11] Player Death: Mollystule was shot out of the skies by Insp.Sarah:McKinley(31%) Assisted by: GF:SEC)-CIara.Langley(23%), GF:SEC)-James.McCarthy(13%), total 65447
[2025.05.10 20:42:07] Player Death: RPA|Saoirse,Keane was shot out of the skies by GF:SEC)-Caherbarnagh(65%) Assisted by: HMS-Needle(15%), BAF|A-HMS-Hermione(13%), total 53603
[2025.05.10 20:42:59] Player Death: Mollyepigus was taken out by GF:SEC)-CIara.Langley(41%) Assisted by: GF:SEC)-Caherbarnagh(29%), GF:SEC)-Ightermurragh(15%), total 61512
[2025.05.10 20:43:56] Player Death: Red.Plight got divebombed by HMS-Needle(29%) Assisted by: HMS-Gipsy(24%), GF:SEC)-Ightermurragh(12%), total 439490
[2025.05.10 20:44:41] Player Death: RPA|PRW-Dierdre died to GF:SEC)-Caherbarnagh(42%) Assisted by: GF:SEC)-Ightermurragh(16%), HMS-Royal.Hand(12%), total 269347
[2025.05.10 20:45:10] Player Death: =ALF=CPG-Smertnik died to GF:SEC)-Carrigaline(52%) Assisted by: HMS-Mercy(22%), HMS-Royal.Hand(14%), total 265052
[2025.05.10 20:45:51] Player Death: Sabers|CPW-Kaspiysk was blown out of the stars by BAF|A-HMS-Hermione(27%) Assisted by: GF:SEC)-Carrigaline(16%), HMS-Mercy(14%), total 768831
[2025.05.10 20:47:46] Player Death: Morris.Plyer died to GF:SEC)-Ightermurragh(34%) Assisted by: GF:SEC)-Caherbarnagh(30%), Insp.Sarah:McKinley(19%), total 253183
[2025.05.10 20:47:51] Player Death: The.Fun.Destroyer's life support went offline thanks to HMS-Royal.Hand(25%) Assisted by: BAF|A-HMS-Hermione(22%), GF:SEC)-Carrigaline(19%), total 420662
[2025.05.10 20:48:44] Player Death: =ALF=CPW-Katioucha's life support went offline thanks to GF:SEC)-Carrigaline(38%) Assisted by: HMS-Royal.Hand(14%), HMS-Berkshire(12%), total 429592
[2025.05.10 20:49:06] Player Death: CNS-Angst's life support went offline thanks to DTR-CNS>Anne's_Revenge(100%), total 573060
[2025.05.10 20:49:10] Player Death: CPW-Oleg.Popov's life support went offline thanks to HMS-Gipsy(25%) Assisted by: GF:SEC)-Carrigaline(21%), HMS-Royal.Hand(17%), total 466995
[2025.05.10 20:49:17] Player Death: {LSOT>Husam perished at GF:SEC)-James.McCarthy's hands(52%) Assisted by: Insp.Sarah:McKinley(48%), total 21012
[2025.05.10 20:49:48] Player Death: GF:SEC)-Caherbarnagh died to =ALF=CPC-Balalaika(78%) Assisted by: CPW-Zamok(19%), total 42943
[2025.05.10 20:51:02] Player Death: =ALF=CPC-Balalaika perished at HMS-Needle's hands(32%) Assisted by: HMS-Gipsy(24%), HMS-Royal.Hand(16%), total 738803
[2025.05.10 20:51:27] Player Death: CPW-Zamok perished at HMS-Gipsy's hands(22%) Assisted by: GF:SEC)-Carrigaline(18%), GF:SEC)-Ightermurragh(11%), total 736814

As you can see, 15 Molly players died, and 1 BAF towards the end. If BAF had 30-minute respawns, this encounter would be the same, because none of the BAF side took advantage of them. But the perception of the engagement would have been different, which I cannot control, but hopefully can clarify. Essentially, the fight was a snowball, which can happen in any mixed fleet engagement. Don't feel bad if you are on the receiving end, it's not anything to do with your skills.

[10.05.2025 20:01:37] [Dev]Barrier: I think the heavy caps can back off at this point
[10.05.2025 20:01:46] [Dev]Barrier: Let the snubs and the light caps duke it out
[10.05.2025 20:02:17] [OOC] [Dev]Barrier: You can ignore that message, seems like a bug
[10.05.2025 20:04:55] [Dev]Barrier: Heavy caps can be back in the game as you see fit.
[10.05.2025 20:12:14] [OOC] [Dev]Barrier: folks, please move at least 10k away from Somerset
[10.05.2025 20:14:40] [OOC] [Dev]Barrier: You folks are done here. Thanks for the effort
[10.05.2025 20:18:12] [Staff]Petitioner (group 38): Yes, Barrier made that decision
[10.05.2025 20:24:51] [OOC] [Dev]Barrier: Guys what happened was the intended outcome. You don't need to be by the somerset, and it won't be enjoyable for either side
[10.05.2025 20:25:03] [OOC] [Dev]Barrier: Let's focus on the remaining objective
[10.05.2025 20:25:54] [OOC] [Dev]Barrier: Him fleeing will be dealt with
[10.05.2025 20:26:53] [OOC] [Dev]Barrier: Yes, it could be handled better. But I got the outcome I wanted here
[10.05.2025 20:28:09] [Dev]Barrier (group 38): All currently dead players may respawn now, but the timer is still in effect

P.s if you're going to micro manage a fight with your shitty pvp judgement, state that in the event thread so people don't bother to show up at all.

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[Ramke]

I appreciate the 'shitty pvp judgement' because it has actually given some form of relief from being ganked by twice the numbers.

[Levenna]

wasn't that the fight where every single bret snub had its own personal cruiser chasing it

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[03.07.2024] LNS-Beast***: we can do this every day but you have to buy bigger stronger ships...and i'll help you

[L1ght]

I appreciate the 'shitty pvp judgement' because it has actually given some form of relief from being ganked by twice the numbers.

18 vs 25 is not really twice the numbers especially if you have infinite respawns (it's more of a skill issue) and 15 dead Mollys to 1 BAF definitely don't feel relief.

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[Levenna]

18 vs 25 is not really twice the numbers especially if you have infinite respawns (it's more of a skill issue) and 15 dead Mollys to 1 BAF definitely don't feel relief.

can I ask which part was shitty judgement? The molly side of was a hell of a lot heavier and wiped the BAF side off the face of the earth in the first fight. They only got cleaned up on respawn after half of us switched to gunboats. If there weren't infinite respawns it would have just ended then and there within the first 15 minutes.

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[03.07.2024] LNS-Beast***: we can do this every day but you have to buy bigger stronger ships...and i'll help you

[Ramke]

I appreciate the 'shitty pvp judgement' because it has actually given some form of relief from being ganked by twice the numbers.

18 vs 25 is not really twice the numbers especially if you have infinite respawns (it's more of a skill issue) and 15 dead Mollys to 1 BAF definitely don't feel relief.

The infinite respawns weren't a thing in the first fight, except towards the end when it was a curbstomp going all the way from the objective to being pushed back to spawn. The reason I'm saying twice the numbers is because when I checked, it was twice the numbers:

[10.05.2025 20:27:02] Target group size: 24 (18 in space)
[10.05.2025 20:27:02] Your group size: 11 (10 in space)

The second fight didn't matter whether the respawns were there or not, as Barrier said.

[L1ght]

18 vs 25 is not really twice the numbers especially if you have infinite respawns (it's more of a skill issue) and 15 dead Mollys to 1 BAF definitely don't feel relief.

can I ask which part was shitty judgement? The molly side of was a hell of a lot heavier and wiped the BAF side off the face of the earth in the first fight. They only got cleaned up on respawn after half of us switched to gunboats. If there weren't infinite respawns it would have just ended then and there within the first 15 minutes.

Telling one side to move while another continues engaging, giving infinite respawns instead of literally pming people to switch, but hey I guess us pvpers leaving after we noticed that the fight is being micro managed instead of letting it evolve organically gave Barrier the BAF win that he wanted ( which he could've just gotten either way if he pmed us but you know). As I said if you're going to micro manage a fight to sway the snowball to the other side, simply state it so we don't waste time logging in. I'd rather play minecraft than engage in predetermined pvp fights and I already know I'm not the only one feeling that way.

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[Culbrelai]

[10.05.2025 20:25:54] [OOC] [Dev]Barrier: Him fleeing will be dealt with

@Barrier
Hi yes, I assume you meant me, Iron Constitution.

I did not know fleeing was against the event rules as I saw half a dozen snubs also do it because Somerset had no regens to restock with. Additionally, this was when infinite respawns was active, so I felt it made no functional difference at the time.

[10.05.2025 20:20:50] GF:SEC)-Ightermurragh: you can just go into NL
[10.05.2025 20:20:52] GF:SEC)-Ightermurragh: and dock at essex

[10.05.2025 20:21:04] GF:SEC)-Carrigaline: i will try /rearm on somerset
[10.05.2025 20:21:07] GF:SEC)-Caherbarnagh: ERR Rearmament not available

After restocking, I did not return because I saw this

[10.05.2025 20:22:49] Target group size: 24 (20 in space)
[10.05.2025 20:22:49] Your group size: 12 (11 in space)

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