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Offline Lucend
08-13-2009, 10:46 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-13-2009, 10:47 PM by Lucend.)
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' Wrote:True, Corsairs are worse. They nuked a whole planet. Could any neutral party truly reconcile harbouring them with their neutrality?

Firstly, the Zoners aren't harboring anybody, the Corsairs live there. Alot of them live there. Secondly, the only people I've seen invade Omega 49 as of late are QCP. Do the QCP represent the Mollies now? Or the Crown?

And yes, the bombing of Cork was bad. I think we can all agree that nuclear holocaust is a very bad thing. Why exactly are we debating this?

"The thirteen saloons that had lined the one street of Seney had not left a trace. The foundations of the Mansion House hotel stuck up above the ground. The stone was chipped and split by the fire. It was all that was left of the town of Seney. Even the surface had been burned off the ground.
Nick looked at the burned-over stretch of hillside, where he had expected to find the scattered houses of the town and then walked down the railroad track to the bridge over the river. The river was there."

Osaika Moto, the Fall and Rise of a Kusari Farmer

Juan Lucendez, √ Corsair
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Offline bluntpencil2001
08-13-2009, 10:47 PM,
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' Wrote:Swiss sounds good as an example, we just need Swiss guard!
What are you, the Pope?

The Swiss wouldn't hide Al Qaeda in Zurich, Zoners shouldn't harbour genocidal Corsairs on Gran Canaria.

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Offline Magoo!
08-13-2009, 10:49 PM,
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*headdesk*

Well that's just about as racist as you can get in Freelancer.

Yes, and America bombed Okinawa and Nagasaki, but does that mean that Ms. Sue, the recently widowed lady living in Massachusetts is responsible? No.

So yes, some Corsairs bombed Cork, does that mean that the average house mom and dad working at GC's docks are responsible? No.
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Offline bluntpencil2001
08-13-2009, 10:50 PM,
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' Wrote:Firstly, the Zoners aren't harboring anybody, the Corsairs live there. Alot of them live there. Secondly, the only people I've seen invade Omega 49 as of late are QCP. Do the QCP represent the Mollies now? Or the Crown?

And yes, the bombing of Cork was bad. I think we can all agree that nuclear holocaust is a very bad thing. Why exactly are we debating this?
The people on Cork were Bretonian citizens, whether they liked it or not. We've a duty to prevent such utter inhumanity to our people. Even if they weren't, most would condemn such an act, even neutral parties.

Why do the Zoners let Corsairs live there, under their docking ring? That is harbouring them.

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Offline bluntpencil2001
08-13-2009, 10:52 PM,
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' Wrote:*headdesk*

Well that's just about as racist as you can get in Freelancer.

Yes, and America bombed Okinawa and Nagasaki, but does that mean that Ms. Sue, the recently widowed lady living in Massachusetts is responsible? No.

So yes, some Corsairs bombed Cork, does that mean that the average house mom and dad working at GC's docks are responsible? No.
That shows a lack of political motivation. Plus, I doubt all those Titans in Omega 49, like the ships the QCP were hunting (who were complaining about NFZs when getting shot: see 'harbouring warships') are mums and dads working the docks. The reason the TAZ opened fire was to defend Corsair Titans.

There should be political condemnation of their government, which there isn't. There is friendly meetings instead.

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Offline Lucend
08-13-2009, 10:56 PM,
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I would like to add another option to the list provided in the original post.

The Zoners should do what they usually do in these circumstances and TALK TO PEOPLE. The great thing about the Zoners is that many factions in the edge worlds depend on them for survival. Without Gran Canaria under Zoner control, many factions would lose quite a bit of investment.

However there is a problem in that the Houses don't depend on the Zoners much. Sure, the odd resource can come cheaper, but they can produce basically everything they need. Bretonia would be the aggressor in this, simply because they would gain so much more invading Canaria. Therefore the Zoners need to start pulling strings. And I"m not talking Corsair strings either. The Zoners have a very interesting roleplay in that they are at least neutral with so many factions. Talk to people, get a defense force together and repel the invaders.

"The thirteen saloons that had lined the one street of Seney had not left a trace. The foundations of the Mansion House hotel stuck up above the ground. The stone was chipped and split by the fire. It was all that was left of the town of Seney. Even the surface had been burned off the ground.
Nick looked at the burned-over stretch of hillside, where he had expected to find the scattered houses of the town and then walked down the railroad track to the bridge over the river. The river was there."

Osaika Moto, the Fall and Rise of a Kusari Farmer

Juan Lucendez, √ Corsair
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Offline bluntpencil2001
08-13-2009, 10:58 PM,
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' Wrote:I would like to add another option to the list provided in the original post.

The Zoners should do what they usually do in these circumstances and TALK TO PEOPLE. The great thing about the Zoners is that many factions in the edge worlds depend on them for survival. Without Gran Canaria under Zoner control, many factions would lose quite a bit of investment.

However there is a problem in that the Houses don't depend on the Zoners much. Sure, the odd resource can come cheaper, but they can produce basically everything they need. Bretonia would be the aggressor in this, simply because they would gain so much more invading Canaria. Therefore the Zoners need to start pulling strings. And I"m not talking Corsair strings either. The Zoners have a very interesting roleplay in that they are at least neutral with so many factions. Talk to people, get a defense force together and repel the invaders.
This is true.

In vanilla, the Houses didn't bother the Zoners since the Zoners had nothing they wanted and tended to back down to threats from governments when pirates were involved.

The pirates didn't bother them since the Zoners made themselves useful.

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Offline Magoo!
08-13-2009, 11:02 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-13-2009, 11:05 PM by Magoo!.)
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Quote:That shows a lack of political motivation. Plus, I doubt all those Titans in Omega 49, like the ships the QCP were hunting (who were complaining about NFZs when getting shot: see 'harbouring warships') are mums and dads working the docks. The reason the TAZ opened fire was to defend Corsair Titans.

There should be political condemnation of their government, which there isn't. There is friendly meetings instead.
Mmmmmkay.

So, Russian mercenaries, lets call then Ravenwood Co. to be cliche, are assigned to guard a random company in the US. Lets say one of Donald Trump's places. Anti-Russian extremists (? 0.o) come in guns blazing, busting caps in them and hunting them down, and proceed to start attacking Americans because various landlords gave them and their wives apartments?

Because that's really what they are. The Zoners hired the Corsairs and I don't think they'd travel 2 systems to get to work. "Oh hey, so where do you live? Somewhere here in New York?"
"Eh, Indiana actually. I wake up at 4:00 and fly by jet to get here on time."

Anywho, adding to the list.

-Edit- Think of it like an occupational benefit. The abode on GC, that is.
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Offline bluntpencil2001
08-13-2009, 11:04 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-13-2009, 11:06 PM by bluntpencil2001.)
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' Wrote:Mmmmmkay.

So, Russian mercenaries, lets call then Ravenwood Co. to be cliche, are assigned to guard a random company in the US. Lets say one of Donald Trump's places. Anti-Russian extremists (? 0.o) come in guns blazing, busting caps in them and hunting them down, and proceed to start attacking Americans because various landlords gave them and their wives apartments?

Because that's really what they are. The Zoners hired the Corsairs and I don't think they'd travel 2 systems to get to work. "Oh hey, so where do you live? Somewhere here in New York?"
"Eh, Indiana actually. I wake up at 4:00 and fly by jet to get here on time."

Anywho, adding to the list.
No, it would be like the Swiss Government saying 'Everyone is welcome here, but no fighting', then letting wanted Al Qaeda terrorists live there.

The US would then bomb the joint, furious at this so-called neutrality.

The Corsairs on GC aren't just women and children, but combat pilots foolishly invited in by the Zoners.

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Offline Magoo!
08-13-2009, 11:06 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-13-2009, 11:08 PM by Magoo!.)
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Yeah, but the main thing I'm saying is you're treating all Corsairs like thugs and pirates.

Your example would be better put as, "A large group of Middle-Easterners moved to Switzerland and among them were a group of known terrorists".

Aye, the US would probably try and eliminate them, but to say, "KEEL AWL TEH AFGHANIZ!!" is just rubbish.

"A Corsair is a Corsair is a Corsair, and they must all be vaporized."
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