Battleships- a solution

[Colonel.Tigh]

Evil idipendet players, why not dissallow indies all together, so the faction leaders can feel more important, and decide exclusively who gets to fly that Cap.

Is that a flame? i think not the, starting post might have been.
Yes right, only well knowen player may use the ships they want, right, thats the way, do they have to be popular as well.
May i remind you that some players have played here for a very long time, years sometimes, and play their charakter with very good roleplay, but have never bothered to post spam the forum or suck up to faction leaders or admins. They enritch the roleplay, and the atmosphere of this server.
But now you say, they many not do it, because they are not communuty whores, why post to every threat, and hang out in Teamspeak or sykpe all day.

Really?? some players want to play the game, and have fun, Threats like this are just grose.

If I ever decide to purchase a Battleship, and fight and play in it, i dont want to have to ask anybody if i may, i will ask nicely, i will not beg bribe any faction leaders, or what ever, i will just do.

Server rules say, everone must have a maximum of one Battleship, one per player, Factions workaround this rule by useing shared battleships already, how about putting a stop to that?
One BS per player, thats a good rule, every one can have one, but must decide where and what its going to be.

Every one of us have ran into a Battleship that was no well played, shure, but also into alot of well played ones.

AND some of the faction Caps are played bad either, not pointing naked fingers, but one Faction Battleship owned by a respected Players, has //oorped around the system chat everytime i came across it.
Yea right, stopp these lolwuting factionised Battleship...comeone think about what your asking for.

Really think, not just, oh i am pissed by that cap that just killed me, i am writeing a post/threat to bann all the Capplayers that arent well connected.

so long, and no thanks.

[Galacius]

"With the system I would like to introduce, the faction would NOT be able to restrict the purchase of capital ships. They would ONLY be able to petition the admin team to have someone's cap-flying rights removed, AFTER that individual had been shown to be screwing up. Adaquate proof would have to be shown."
I like that ...

A heckava lot better then whats been proposed the last couple days.

[frozen]

And here I thought Gurj didn't care for the drama of the forums:P

im a pushover, really.:P

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[Gin*]

I really dont know how much topics has been made about BS flyed by non factions players, but hey you never get enough of it:D

My vote was for the "keep it like it is now but if the BS makes a mistake the faction can have their fun with them " button or somethin like that. And yes oorp is not only an disease wich overtake only non faction players in BS it also hit the Factions players...

Ok coming up to my next point ehh Colonel Tigh said it right, pure WIN for you mate, thanks to you i will qoute it for the next topic, wich will come :mellow:

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[casero]

"1on1"
"Stay within 1k"
"Don't run in impulse"
"Why don't you kill yourself to repair the ship"

Quotes from a rheinland battleship in system chat.

[FooFighter]

Voted "Other" - anything Gunboat and up should be faction-given only. Yes, there are plenty of great indie RPers flying such ships, but seriously, asking a faction for approval isn't that much work, and if some RP would be required to get bigger ships than fighters, maybe we could finally say "Hey, look, a Battleship! Time for some RP!" instead of "Oh, crap. Yet *another* stupid BS jock...".

This way, GBs and up will also become a little bit rarer and won't be seen on every corner doing 2millordai lolpiracy. In exchange, we could give all these ships a few buffs, especially Battleships - they should be very few in numbers, but should they be unleashed, they should truly rule the sky instead of getting shot down by 2 bombers (or even a couple of good GB pilots - Battleships really ain't that strong unless you are in a fighter).

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"1on1"
"Stay within 1k"
"Don't run in impulse"
"Why don't you kill yourself to repair the ship"

Quotes from a rheinland battleship in system chat.

SS and do a sanction request. Even though the guy will likely just get a warning, repeated offenses might very well lead to something more...impacting. I know that writing a sanction report ain't nice, but hey, what can you do? Some people don't listen to you when you try to teach them, so you have to take out the whip.

[Alex.]

No, leave it how it is, there are some people that aren't well known, but aren't causing any trouble and don't deserve to have it refunded for being an indie.
Also, you can't restrict independants, This WILL NOT go down well.

[Monster]

Alias of that faction who sells the ship plus freelancers should be the only players who can buy a faction ship.

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[teschy]

SS and do a sanction request. Even though the guy will likely just get a warning, repeated offenses might very well lead to something more...impacting. I know that writing a sanction report ain't nice, but hey, what can you do? Some people don't listen to you when you try to teach them, so you have to take out the whip.

That's RNC-Rheinland.Tiger, also known as RNC-CROAT. What's to hide? He's been sanctioned a load of times, but it seems all he gets is his weapons stripped off, which wouldn't matter for someone who can powertrade happily one day in his Zoner Whale to get them back. I don't have a problem with the guy, it seems he likes PvP. He has no clue about what RP means, he shows no intention of learning. He doesn't care. But Discovery is a roleplaying server, not a deathmatcher's mud pit. If you bring in such rules, it would at least stop the lolwutters trashing people randomly, in godly ships. I'd rather see a Jarek in a Sabre, or even a dessie, than a [RuS]MEGAVOLT in a cap8 Rheinland Battleship.

And that's just one example. There are many others.

So what's holding back from introducing this rule?

[kingvaillant]

Voted that we make them restrictable by factions, but allow well known independents to use them with permission from the faction.

I think we need to apply this to the order carrier too though, it's the most spammed ship type in this mod -_-

As one of their...victims... I confirm, too much of them atm. I was in a lone GB chased by three of them the other day...

I would also be favorable for the 2nd option, but accidentally voted 4

As for deciding what ship needs to be limited, maybe we could make choices based on their powerplants. Ships with big powerplants (like the order Carrier, LABC, BS, etc) are generally among the most powerful (can support more weapons, or higher end weapons) and dangerous if misused.

Also, why is the Order carrier a cruiser class instead of a BS...never really understood that concept. Unless this was done because the Order is using guerrilla style tactics...but even there, the size of the ship is undeniable.

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