Timothy may be richer than Lars, but the Cryer family has been at it for much longer than the Johansens! You have no right to exclude us, the great and mighty builder of all that fine infrastructure you use hourly, from your list of unfriends! Because, as you should know, even if Lars might not have as large a personal fortune, his corporation is far larger than the local apothecary!
As for the rest of the application, I'm not qualified to give much feedback beyond what these other SOBs and ROSsies and Lotus munchers (if they're stilla round?) and so on.
One thing, however:
Quote:II. A Pirate Must Always Respect Those Within The Clan, Allies, and Friends!
Wouldn't it be better if you ask your members to respect everyone, including their unfortunate victims? Being respectful to your victims doesn't make them any less victims of your wrath. Give it a thought, at least.
place the NovaPG on unfriendly or hostile. if you show your face in Kusari you are a goner.
You also forgot the RHA, add them under the same category (unfriendly or hostile) if you come to rheinland as an outcast you are as good as dead.
Respect is earned and those outside of our allies & friends will have to earn it. Our prey will never be shown respect, they are nothing more than a flying credit card to us. As for our enemies, they are shown the least amount of respect. They are nothing more than a nuisance to us, to be cleansed.
As for Destroyers and larger allowed flight in New York or Liberty itself, that is a rule of the now dissolved Council of Dons. And if the new government would prohibit full scale attacks on Liberty, one of our enemies, they will show their own weakness in securing the interests of the Maltese People early on then. Remember, we are a nation of Piracy. The personal agenda of revenge of the ESS aligns itself with the agenda of the Outcast Nation to dispatch it's enemies at home and abroad, Liberty being one of them. A liberty free of it's Liberty Navy and Security Forces would mean an unstable area in the universe, but it would open up a more secure way for us to move our Cardimine to our allies, friends, and to our customers. When Liberty throws their Navy at us in full force as I have seen in the past with their Battleships, Dreadnoughts, and other vessels, we need to respond. It is not my fault is Liberty won't leave their ''safe haven'' and come bring the fight to us. Obviously Liberty is a failing cause and cannot come defeat it's foes.
And no, we are not capwhores, but we are a Militant Naval Piracy and we will make use of our Capital Class Vessels as needed. And no this does not mean there will be a huge fleet of ESS in Liberty everyday with ten battleships -
-Changes made to the faction sheet
"Abstinence of the Heart; Sever Your Emotion Like A Defective Circuit..."
I'll ask this simply, just so I don't embarrass myself:
Wouldn't you rather like to have a strong Liberty, with wealthy and protected citizens? Wouldn't that keep your client base stronger than decimating the House would?
EDIT: You also haven't added DSE to your diplomacy.
nice i will go through the rest later. a lot to take in one go and i must walk the dog, it looks good. didnt see you guys in game yet.. so i cannot say anything.
' Wrote:I'll ask this simply, just so I don't embarrass myself:
Wouldn't you rather like to have a strong Liberty, with wealthy and protected citizens? Wouldn't that keep your client base stronger than decimating the House would?
EDIT: You also haven't added DSE to your diplomacy.
I would have to say no. I would like to see Liberty Navy utterly decimated. It would soothe my soul to see dreadnought after battleship floating lifelessly throughout liberty. Tattered remains of police ships being picked apart by our junker friends in the debris fields and navy fighters ripped to shreds. Do not forget they have scarred us for life in their own secret endeavors to destroy criminal operations around Sirius. How would you like to lead your life with mechanical adaptations throughout your body and scars that will never heal. Have you gone day to day without ever having silence in your mind, without the daunting thoughts of a collective in your head at every moment?
Without the threat of the Liberty Navy perhaps Rhienland may take over and annex all of Liberty, or perhaps the Outcasts will. Either way, our hatred for the Liberty Navy knows no bounds. Without our foes operating there new corporations will spawn, the criminal world will rise and spread thicker through Liberty and it will make it more worth our while to even venture to Liberty to sell our Cardimine and other goods. I think you are looking at this from a lawful perspective possibly. I would rather see Liberty fall and see the rise of the criminal world so our passage is safer, and our time there more profitable selling our goods. You don't know how hard it is to sell when all around you are Liberty forces and police and their bounty hunter friends. As for the general population, they will adapt over time to a future absence of their beloved government.
*This is clearly a simple taste of our Role Play. DSE will be added to our rep list.
"Abstinence of the Heart; Sever Your Emotion Like A Defective Circuit..."
' Wrote:I would have to say no. I would like to see Liberty Navy utterly decimated. It would soothe my soul to see dreadnought after battleship floating lifelessly throughout liberty. Tattered remains of police ships being picked apart by our junker friends in the debris fields and navy fighters ripped to shreds. Do not forget they have scarred us for life in their own secret endeavors to destroy criminal operations around Sirius. How would you like to lead your life with mechanical adaptations throughout your body and scars that will never heal. Have you gone day to day without ever having silence in your mind, without the daunting thoughts of a collective in your head at every moment?
Without the threat of the Liberty Navy perhaps Rhienland may take over and annex all of Liberty, or perhaps the Outcasts will. Either way, our hatred for the Liberty Navy knows no bounds. Without our foes operating there new corporations will spawn, the criminal world will rise and spread thicker through Liberty and it will make it more worth our while to even venture to Liberty to sell our Cardimine and other goods. I think you are looking at this from a lawful perspective possibly. I would rather see Liberty fall and see the rise of the criminal world so our passage is safer, and our time there more profitable selling our goods. You don't know how hard it is to sell when all around you are Liberty forces and police and their bounty hunter friends. As for the general population, they will adapt over time to a future absence of their beloved government.
*This is clearly a simple taste of our Role Play. DSE will be added to our rep list.
Simple difference in views, undoubtedly, but perhaps a discussion that will benefit your faction-to-be?
First of all, you are mistaken that I am speaking from a purely lawful view. I have been with the Lane Hacker faction since I started here and am intimately aware of how the cardamine trade works, at least from the borders of Liberty to the final customers. The Hackers are, after all, the Outcast's interface with Liberty House. That said, my experience and knowledge of the lawful side of Liberty helps to give me beneficial perspective on issues such as this.
If the Liberty Navy, Police, and Security Force were destroyed, the House would be open to conquest. If it was to happen now, the conqueror would likely be Rheinland House. If not Rheinland House, then whoever does occupies Liberty would need to quickly consolidate power and assume Liberty's side of the war. I don't think that would be a particularly wise strategic move, unless you command the Gallic fleets and don't need to trundle through Kusari or Bretonia.
If an Outcast fleet obliterates Liberty and introduces more chaos than any TAZ non-prophet could imagine, Liberty's economy would collapse. I cannot imagine any possible way to maintain Liberty's prosperity while forcibly and violently purging the House of military power.
The Big-3 would lose the protection the LN/LPI/LSF provide. Piracy and terrorism would boom and naturally target the most lucrative and now-unprotected commercial activities, namely the Big-3. Ageira Technologies, Deep Space Engineering, and Interspace Commerce would no longer have any alternative but to move to a friendly House (Bretonia, perhaps) or ensure the collapse of the technological, infrastructural, and commercial foundations of all Houses. Interspace Commerce would no longer be able to finance trade lanes and jump gates, Deep Space Engineering would then no longer be able to maintain or expand the gate/lane network, and Ageira would in all likelihood lose Valhalla.
Sirius would take a giant leap toward the nearest snake and slide down to "start," because the prosperity of Liberty is largely synonymous with the prosperity of Sirius, as circumstances are.
If Liberty's economy fails, so does the upper echelon of wealth. At the top of Liberty sits those with vast quantities of wealth amassed through corporate endeavors. With the fall of those corporations, or the exodus of those corporations to other Houses, the primary customers of the Outcast Cardamine industry will have vanished.
Even if the corporations survived, even if another house gets a hold of Ageira's technological and Interspace's financial power, even if Sirius is largely unaffected by Liberty's demise, Liberty will still have gone under. Liberty would no longer serve as a booming market for Maltese Orange. The Outcasts would need to find another primary market, but then it starts all over again. There will be militaries to face. There will be police to face.
You will have the same issues on your hands as you do now, but with the added disadvantages of no longer having a market to fund your escapades with. If you had the wealth and might to best Liberty, I doubt you could sustain that might without the wealth you make in Liberty. The Outcast nation would, in all likelihood, diminish to a shadow of its current glory.
Your firm establishment in the treacherous reaches of Sirius would falter. The Corsairs might steamroll in. The BHG Core might decide to put a final bullet in your mask. Kusari might even see the honor in putting you down. Who knows.
Unless, of course, Cryer decides to fund you in order to keep researching solutions to the problems you bring.
