Manhattan Orbit Zone

[Quorg]

I'm sorry, I just fail to see the point of this.

The LN and LPI will continue shooting at pirates in Manhattan's orbit even if it is implemented, whether or not the pirates break the NFZ rules themselves.
Smugglers running to Manhattan will also presumably be shot at by the lawlfuls as well. It really changes nothing.

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ATTENTION SMUGGLERS
The Midnight Express: A Slaver <strike>who doesn't completely realize what he's doing.</strike> (video)

Quorg, you're officially a moron.

...mongs like Quorg being like a malignant little cancer...

Way to be useless, Quorg.

[Lance_Uppercut]

It's the f---ing capital of Liberty... there should be no fire anywhere near it, and turrets on orbiting stations should realistically be overpowered for defense.
And why are the LPI/Navy NPC pilots patrolling the area officer/rookie levels. Shouldn't the "ace" levels be protecting the capital?

Just my take... seems dumb that it's "just another planet" with regard to defense.

bring-it-full-circle-edit:
New Toyko, New Berlin, New London, Manhattan, Malta, Crete, Marne, (and maybe Nevers? GR's capital isn't in .85)
...these are all planets that should be of extreme importance to their houses. They should always have the toughest NPC patrols, the strongest defense turrets, and for p-2-p RP, should have at least rhetorical rules like no-fire zones.

On the one hand, yes, these planets are the most populous, most busy ones in Sirius and need open access for successful business/commerce/transport.
On the other, they're freaking capitals and the seats of the house governments. Pirate shouldn't be allowed to camp the docking ring (I've seen this).

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::The Pennsylvania Liberation Force

[Magoo!]

Just ask a friendly lolnaut (aka juggernaut) pilot to park over Manhatten and declare a NFZ >_<

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6625/youweresaying.png
You were saying, Reis? In-game.

Right now.

Grumble. A few pixels, but I don't wanna resize-save-upload-copy-past-IMG it again,

Not resizing it and still posting while knowing you violate the forum rules? A clear no.
Thats not beeing tolerated. You are even too lazy to just put a link in there or post a thumbnail.
Did the link for you this time, but please do it yourself in the future.
If you are too lazy to resize them, post links or thumbnails, then the Moderators will be too lazy to turn them into links and delete them instead.
~Malexa

I suppose there's a difference between laziness and something which has never been such a problem as it quite apparently is these days during my two and a half years here. But thank you for linking it.

-Magoo!

[teschy]

I'm more inclined on the 'instating martial law' idea, rather than 'having no fire zones'.

But that's just me.

And Connor.

And Ench.

[waddoff]

The reason the NFZ around freeports works well is because most pirates need the Zoner's neutrality. Pirates don't need anything from the Liberty Police or Navy, so they will continue to attack targets outside the planet. You may also find they may be inclined to abuse the zone and any one trying to uphold it by sitting there and claiming protection under the NFZ.

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[Doc Holliday]

The reason the NFZ around freeports works well is because most pirates need the Zoner's neutrality. Pirates don't need anything from the Liberty Police or Navy, so they will continue to attack targets outside the planet. You may also find they may be inclined to abuse the zone and any one trying to uphold it by sitting there and claiming protection under the NFZ.

And even then there are some who just don't care. I seriously doubt an NFZ around any planet will work. If the baddies want to raise hell, they will, whether there is an NFZ or not.

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[MFE]Med Force One | Tales of Recovery|Med Force Enterprises

[Hawk]

It really seems like a non issue to me. The only people who would fire a shot outside a planet like Manhattan are the people who shouldn't be there anyway. Telling them not to fire would not do anything to prevent hostilities. New York is a lawful system. If everyone is obeying the law, there is no reason to fire. If there is hostility it's because someone has already decided to break the law. Since this person has no respect for the law, one more law telling them not to shoot in certain places probably won't matter to them.

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[Harcourt.Fenton.Mudd]

It's the f---ing capital of Liberty... there should be no fire anywhere near it, and turrets on orbiting stations should realistically be overpowered for defense.
And why are the LPI/Navy NPC pilots patrolling the area officer/rookie levels. Shouldn't the "ace" levels be protecting the capital?

Just my take... seems dumb that it's "just another planet" with regard to defense.

bring-it-full-circle-edit:
New Toyko, New Berlin, New London, Manhattan, Malta, Crete, Marne, (and maybe Nevers? GR's capital isn't in .85)
...these are all planets that should be of extreme importance to their houses. They should always have the toughest NPC patrols, the strongest defense turrets, and for p-2-p RP, should have at least rhetorical rules like no-fire zones.

On the one hand, yes, these planets are the most populous, most busy ones in Sirius and need open access for successful business/commerce/transport.
On the other, they're freaking capitals and the seats of the house governments. Pirate shouldn't be allowed to camp the docking ring (I've seen this).

Yeah, stations in capital orbits need bomber patrols too.

It should HURT (but not for long) to bring anything near manhat when its red.