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The.Outlaw.Star · 05-07-2010, 07:29 PM,

I vote no change I love the ship as is, its one of the best ships in game and the size has alot to do with it.

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Akura · 05-07-2010, 07:48 PM,

Screw Vanilla.

Someone at Digital Anvil messed up.

It's far too small, regardless of it's arcs.

The Scylla has crappy arcs, and is huge, and basically fulfils the same task, cept it's heavier.

Both are Cruisers that act like Gunboats, difference is, the Kusari Dessie is Overpowered, and the Scylla is a little underpowered.

SMI-Great.Fox · 05-07-2010, 08:54 PM,

For once...I'm going to agree with Akurawr on this one....Enough said...

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Magoo! · (This post was last modified: 05-07-2010, 08:58 PM by Magoo!.)

2.5 that thing. It's smaller than some gunboats as it is.

Oh yes. It should be mentioned that this gunstroyer fuels further hatred of Kusari in me. So fix it. Pl0x? Maybe I might find something worth while in the land-of-no-friends-or-enemies-and-everybody-is-dealing-with-everybody-who-are-resisting-foreigners-so-really-there-are-no-separate-parties.

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Outlaw Wrote:I vote no change I love the ship as is, its one of the best ships in game and the size has alot to do with it.

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McNeo · 05-07-2010, 08:59 PM,

Its easy to say someone messed up when they had Microsoft breathing down their neck to make the release date, isn't it?

Owning one of these ships doesnt lend your opinion any weight, since Im pretty sure I know the reason why people are calling for a nerf:

The first 50% have had their ass handed to them on a silver platter by one of these, possibly with a cap 8 mounted on it.
The second 50% are bandwagon jumpers, which you can see from the amount of stuff in the public dev section.

Just a theory.

tansytansey · 05-07-2010, 11:02 PM,

' Wrote:Funnily enough vanilla Sabre turned slower than current Falcata does, while eagle turned faster than now.

How did disco change that? By making eagle larger? Nope.. by changing their turning to something in the middle.
Sabre still has less mass than any other VHF (some 20% less), hence it keeps it's character, Eagle still turns faster than any other VHF.

That was pretty much my point, those Vanilla ships have been edited yet they still keep their character. Same will go for the Kusari Dessie.

Quote:Kills any GB 1vs1, has a very hard time vs heavy cruisers, can do very well in groups, can't "kite", has a major weakness which can be exploited.
= exactly same as now

So in edition to looking like a Gunboat it also preforms the role of a gunboat, but with Cruiser weapons.

Quote: => What keeps you from resizing it yourself, testing it (needs just 1 more guy) and sending it if it works?

Nothing. I simply want to get opinions from people who fly the ship. I'll be doing it on sunday once I finish some other errands, currently I'm dreading the beginning of my next 10 hour shift.

' Wrote:You are basically simply looking at the size and screaming it's unbalanced without even looking at the other arguments presented as to why it should remain as it is.

I've never said the ship is unbalanced. Moot point. I believe the Destroyer is balanced in it's current form, I've never flown it, only ever fought it twice. First time one opened fire on my Firefly, I got away. Second, killed one with my Orchid with the ]bd[ without much hassle.

Quote:But in my opinion voting dosen't mean shi*

Alternative accounts, not everyone participating in the vote, etc. etc. It dosen't mean anything.

The voting is for me, not any one else. So it doesn't have to mean anything to you.

' Wrote:why not just remove some hard points or give it a real small power plant with a low recharge?

Because the ships balance is not in question here, the ships size is. Moot point.

' Wrote:The first 50% have had their ass handed to them on a silver platter by one of these, possibly with a cap 8 mounted on it.
The second 50% are bandwagon jumpers, which you can see from the amount of stuff in the public dev section.

This is constructive, how? Remove yourself from my thread please, you've brought nothing to this discussion.

' Wrote:ANDIZVANILLA

Moot point. Plenty of Vanilla ships have been altered with success.

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Linkus · 05-07-2010, 11:23 PM,

So the entire point of increasing the size of this ship is because you think it's too small?

It was designed small.
I think the Juggernaught needs to be bigger. Why? Well just cause.
LETS DO THAT.

Can you see how silly it sounds?

The ship was designed to be small.
It was designed a small cruiser.
It is a small cruiser.
It is balanced as a small cruiser.
Why make it a big cruiser?

On that note btw, we should take every battleship and make them the same size.
Same goes for fighters, bombers, freighters, transports etc.
I mean, there's as much justification for doing that as there is for doing this.

In the end it makes no sense to do this.
It requires:
Completely new balancing
Re-doing the textures.
Re-doing the hitbox (possibly).
Removing the entire point of the cruiser (it being small).

I mean, the Dreadnaught is a small battleship, should we re-size it?

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tansytansey · 05-07-2010, 11:30 PM,

Dreadnaught is not the size of a Cruiser.

The Kusari Dessie can still be a small cruiser without being the size of a Gunboat.

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hribek · 05-08-2010, 12:20 AM,

Maybe the Liberator should be enlarged as well as Rheinland Gunboat shrinked.

Akura · 05-08-2010, 12:22 AM,

I don't ever fight Kusari Dessies, I only fight with them, and even I say they need a Nerf, I own one.

I don't fit into either side of your arguement Connor.

It's too small, and it's a problem.

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Poll: Size You do not have permission to vote in this poll.
No change	24.55%	41	24.55%
x2	56.29%	94	56.29%
x2.5	17.37%	29	17.37%
Other:	1.80%	3	1.80%
Total		167 vote(s)	100%