That will uneven the ships. Having only certain ones get torps will have the ones with them much stronger than the others. I think the only ships needing torp slots are cruisers without forward guns.
Unless Igiss makes a special unlimited ammo torp for use with only cap-ships like the missile turrets and just has balanced damage for each ship. We would have to have a different kind of slot so they can't remove it and add a nova.
Angel,Jan 20 2006, 12:33 AM Wrote:Wooooo SWARM turrets
hehehe just kidding
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SWARM turrets for BS!!! Imagine that. It would be a mess fighting a bs with 21 Swarm turrets firing at once. Hundreds of high-speed missiles fired at a fighter. God, the poor guy will never know what hit them because of the lag:
Frame 1-200: a BS 4K away.
Frame 200-201: A BS firing a lot of missiles. PC becames slow...
Next frame: respawn menu... (and a "player have died" label)
Torpedoes for BS seems a good idea. Most Ships of Sci-Fi have torpedo tubes.
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The Pirate,Jan 20 2006, 10:41 AM Wrote:Id think it would be cool if The Slipstream Had more power
it runs out so fast
and also make an Adv LF Champion Shield that would be nice too
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that is a bad idea. The slipstream is a LIGHT FIGHTER. If we invrease their capabilities even more, we would be introducing a ship that can take down ANY fighter in the mod. What is the sense of getting a VHF or Bomber if a LF overpowers it?
Slipstream is fine the way it is now.
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Korrd,Jan 20 2006, 04:51 PM Wrote:that is a bad idea. The slipstream is a LIGHT FIGHTER. If we invrease their capabilities even more, we would be introducing a ship that can take down ANY fighter in the mod. What is the sense of getting a VHF or Bomber if a LF overpowers it?
Slipstream is fine the way it is now.
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I agree. And besides the slipstream is so thin that when i lower its shield its almoust immpossible to hit him. Using missles is useless , 'cause every fighter model that is imported isnt reacting to a missle hit like the original models. What i mean is that if you could seroiusly cripple a Hammerhead with one shot from canonball missle , the slipstream takes the missle with out a scratch( and both ships are similar levels and the original hull Hp difference is not more than 800hp).
For example the Cannonball does 4000+ hull damage. But there is usually bunus to the hit that makes more damage and it destroys equipment or wings/fins.
Not only the thin Slipstream is hardly a target with shield down, and cannons and missles hardly hit him , but the explosive ordinance don't do serious damage.(takes about 10 hits from a cannonball to reduce its hull to 50%).
About arguing that this is because of the armor upgrade - missles do big damage always regarding of the armor.
And BTW this with the missle damage goes to the RH bomber too.There is gotta be some way to fix this-eitherway there is no balance between the MkII original models and the included new ships.
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The Pirate,Jan 20 2006, 02:17 PM Wrote:What i meant was Equalize it so it has maybe clase 6-8 weps and then give it more power
maybe take away 1000 hull points too
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Yeah..... I've never beaten a Slipstream. I've come close(and probably would have if I wasn't trying to kill a robot. (: ) but he did kill me. Its a pain in the butt to hit, if anything, it should be weakened. I mean a skilled pilot could go an entire battle by purposefullly losing his shields and not being hit.
Strangely, it also has a torp mount. One thing no other LF has. I personally am against putting a torp mount on a LF, when you don't put one of the Marsflyer. :\
But if the Marsflyer is strengthened enough, I guess it wouldn't matter. I still would be against putting a torp mount on a light fighter. Unless there is an original LF with a torp mount. :\ Is there?
Yes, the Slipstream with a torpedo is just too powerful. LFs were made for thwe sole purpose of fight combat, with the VHFs taking the balanced (fighter and cap-ship combat) role. Having a torp on a slipstream would make it one of the most powerful ships. Imagine a slipstream with a sidewinder. Could take on 15 player contolled fighters never get hit and take them down very quickly.
It took me 15 minutes to kill Micro's Slipstream and he had just gotten it.
Virus,Jan 20 2006, 09:44 PM Wrote:Strangely, it also has a torp mount. One thing no other LF has. I personally am against putting a torp mount on a LF, when you don't put one of the Marsflyer. :\
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There is one other LF with a torp mount - the Nomad fighter. But it only has 3 gun/missile mounts so it's not unbalancing.
Quote:What is the sense of getting a VHF or Bomber if a LF overpowers it?
An interesting question, Korrd. If that were the case, the LF wouldn't have a role. In my opinion a skilled pilot in a LF should have a good chance against a VHF, maybe even an advantage. VHFs are not just for dogfighting but for taking on bigger cap ships, which LFs are not so good at. LFs should be for just fighting other fighters.
I'm also against putting torps on LFs, and was pleased when Igiss removed them from the Class 9 LFs in 4.78. I haven't flown the Slipstream but it sounds like it didn't ought to have a torp (just a CD). I think the Nomad one should stay though.
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