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Durandal · 01-23-2011, 01:15 AM,

' Wrote:Then again, any lolwhut would pretend that he managed to steal a dread and would use it with pirate id, thus the chart ain't completely useless...

The pirate ID is limited to gunboats.

gafwmn · 01-23-2011, 01:30 AM,

' Wrote:I like it, it's usefull, but could use a tweak or two.

I agree

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Denelo · 01-23-2011, 01:34 AM,

' Wrote:Well for me, I don't see the difference between being shot by a silent lib dread in New York or a silent OCD with corsair turrets in New York.

Not like anyone agrees with me on that point, though.

Orly?

Seriously, the tech chart is worse than worthless. The people who don't RP... still don't RP. The fact that they're flying "normal" ships doesn't make them RP any more - if even they are flying normal ships. A lot of times, they just ignore the tech charts entirely. The people who do RP are restricted more in their RP.

The issue with the tech chart is that it punishes the rule-followers, and the rule-breakers still break the rules. It's a lose-lose situation.

VoluptaBox · 01-23-2011, 01:41 AM,

Quote:The pirate ID is limited to gunboats.

One who'd use a dread to pirate, I somehow doubt that he cares much about this rule...

Durandal · 01-23-2011, 01:58 AM,

The Outcast ID allows for piracy and Dreadnoughts. Your argument is invalid.

Anywho, what would be better is an IFF limitation system, and generic IDs around the board.

VoluptaBox · 01-23-2011, 02:01 AM,

My argument, although invalid, was hardly the point. The point was what someone else said after me, RPers RP despite the chart, and viceversa.

About your idea, elaborate a bit, please:D

Huhuh · (This post was last modified: 01-23-2011, 03:03 AM by Huhuh.)

' Wrote:The Outcast ID allows for piracy and Dreadnoughts. Your argument is invalid.

Anywho, what would be better is an IFF limitation system, and generic IDs around the board.

Outcast Guard ID:
* Can escort smugglers
* Can ally with Nomads and Keepers
* Can engage pirates, terrorists and lawfuls within their Zone of Influence
* Can only pirate in a gunboat or smaller (cruisers and battleships may demand allied pilots only)
* Cannot ally with any lawfuls except with Bretonian lawfuls against Corsairs, Gaians and Kusari lawfuls
* Cannot engage Nomads, Wild or Keepers except in self-defence

Allowed ships: Fighters, Freighters, Transports, Slave Liner, Gunboats, Cruisers, Battleships

Anonymous User · 01-23-2011, 03:24 AM,

Voted: "It's a pain, and should be destroyed"

whole techchart should be white.

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AndrzejB · 01-23-2011, 11:45 AM,

' Wrote:For example the BD can only use GMG weapons with an SRP despite the fact that GMG is the hidden financial backer of the BD fleet.

Probably in order to keep the support hidden.
It brings another issue. All those huge blocks of red cells are a proof of distrust toward official factions. (I won't argue whether it is justified or not).

' Wrote:Tech chart punishes out of the box RP and solves absolutely nothing. Just forces people into cliques tbh.

I can't agree with you to full extent. Example: Ancient art was all about rules and limitations. It was neat, nice, beautiful, aesthetically pleasing.

Feel free to PM me regarding any grammar/spelling/other language mistakes I have made in my posts.

' Wrote:[...] Outcasts get sniffy [...]

Bloody foreigners.

VoluptaBox · 01-23-2011, 12:00 PM,

Well, Tycho has explained his idea, and does indeed sound very neat...

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I love it! It encourages roleplaying, and decreases lolwuttery (Keep as is)	30.67%	69	30.67%
It's meh. Good for some things, but could be fixed up a bit.	50.67%	114	50.67%
It's a pain, and should be destroyed	15.56%	35	15.56%
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