Can a Harvester get a Corsair witness?

[JayDee Kasane]

That is always so wierd... where to start... ok lets keep it that

1st: I dont think that Corsairs need AIs as enemy, harvesters or binars no mater. they had a diplomacy so they must have same allies now

2nd: If there was years of RP before, why you should forgot about? some factions falls, some raises. if old faction returnings back, so they must have same RP as before.

3rd: im my AAI Chronos I was in Gamma many times, RPed with indies, benitez, even some TBHs, helped Sairs fight hessians, OC, RR, BHG and few other. why you will say to me ''screw off AI you not welcome here''?

4th: Gamma and Kappa is close to each other, so AIs will visit Gamma anyway, passing though, trading etc...

5th: Corsairs have now terrible situation. Too many enemys on its borders. AIs can provide protection from those who dont wanted by them as well, like BHG Core or Nomads.

In my Corsair I saw many AIs, and most of em were good to RP with, and almost all were friends to Sairs. SO why you dont want to make a friends? AIs cant betray because of money, fame and other staff

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[Coin]

is there anything wrong with ai id and sair iff?

ive not seen harvesters in gamma for years.

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[Madvillain]

Guys , this whole thought is ridiculous ,
It has been discussed on skype (for nearly 5 hours!)
between the Corsair official factions and the current leader of the Harvesters.

All Corsair factions agreed on the following :

The Harvesters will not be randomly shot at by the Corsairs.
However for the time being they are not to enter Gamma or go within 20k of Corsair bases.
Nor are they to dock on Corsair bases (which would be a bit hard if you can't get within 20k anway ).
If the Harvesters want to join in shooting Corsair enemies outside of Gamma then they will be welcome to do so, and we can fight alongside one another.

This is already generous ,
and it is useless to continue to whine about more.

There will never be a AI / Corsair alliance.

The talk about years of RP between Harvesters and Corsairs is greatly exaggerated.

The OPG faction where they used to have ties with has disbanded.

26. Neutral warships (including Gunboat and Gunship classes) are not welcome in Corsair territory. Unless they have the Council of Elders' approval, neutral warships should be escorted out of our space and the use of force is authorized if they refuse to comply.

Quoted from the Corsair laws

6.9 You must follow the restrictions/allowances of your ID, as well as the diplomacy of the NPC faction it
represents. If your ID does not represent an NPC faction (generic IDs), then your reputation and conduct
must match the actions of your character. You must not dock at bases that your NPC faction is hostile to, or
attack allies of your NPC faction.

Note: IDs may contain restrictions/allowances which conflict with the rules. In these cases, the ID overrides
the rules.

Quoted from the server rules , anyone flying a corsair ID must RP being a Corsair.

I can Quote the whole skype conversation,
but it would be even more of a waste of forum space.

no means no.

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[pruskis92]

corsairs have nothing to do with harvesters atm, I don't remember for what reasons they became allied with OPG, but after OPG disbanded and sails show up in the space at the first time - since that moment, I can't recall any harvester trying to contact |sails. at this point i could simple shoot them, however, I'd like to see them as |sails allies if that would bring some fun and activity on both sides. don't forget that little part of |sails members were flying under OPG tagged ships.

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[Geisha_Maiko]

""however, I'd like to see them as |sails allies if that would bring some fun and activity on both sides""

See, that would be a great option. Something to look forward to.

However when the door is slammed in your face by a

"no means no."
"There will never be a AI / Corsair alliance."

That just tosses the whole idea of Role Play, and Advancement right out the window.
At that point, the game might as well hand out pre-defined characters, engraved in stone.


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26. Neutral warships (including Gunboat and Gunship classes) are not welcome in Corsair territory. Unless they have the Council of Elders' approval, neutral warships should be escorted out of our space and the use of force is authorized if they refuse to comply.

Harvesters are not neutral warships with Corsair. They are friendly and/or allied.

There even a note on the Corsair Benitez Family section
http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?...pic=102091
http://i39.tinypic.com/kf4lxw.png

One would think if the statement made by a Corsair Leadership :""fact of the matter is though, if you were doing so much defending of Crete over the last three years, don't you think some of us corsairs would have seen it?"...is completely true, then why would Harvesters be listed as friendly, if no corsair has ever seen one?

Back to my original post subject of putting The above claim to the test.
""Hola Corsairs. Have any of the corsair Brethren see or fought along side any of the AI ships called Harvesters? Has any of the Corsair seen these Harvester defend our beloved Planet Crere during Attacks by our enemies?? If you have a good recommendation, please pm to your local Corsair Leadership.. If you have a bad review, please sent it as well.

[Reacher]

If not Corsair, Hog, AFA, Gaian, Samura and you are within Sair ZoI then you are fair game. I see no reason why AI ID and Corsairs should be friends.

[Madvillain]

""however, I'd like to see them as |sails allies if that would bring some fun and activity on both sides""

See, that would be a great option. Something to look forward to.

Yeah ,
Vito was pretty clear about that.
So were Jose and me.
Stop whining about it.
You cannot dictate what 3 official factions should do.

No
The opposite of yes. Meaning to disagree with something.
Person1: "Do you want a piece of pie?"
Person2: "No".

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[Vito]

Right now there is no alliance between the Sails and the Harvesters but we are open to new opportunities. Obey our laws, stay out of Gamma (again, we are not friends/allies yet so your big ships are not allowed there), shoot our enemies and bring us supplies. That does not mean we'll be best buddies after you deliver a load of food to Cadiz, that only means we might reconsider our relations.

However, given the special relation Corsairs have with their technology I doubt we will even see you as our equals/friends/allies. If you prove yourselves useful we might keep you around but we will always see you as inferior and not worthy of our full respect.

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[jammi]

Back to my original post subject of putting The above claim to the test.
""Hola Corsairs. Have any of the corsair Brethren see or fought along side any of the AI ships called Harvesters? Has any of the Corsair seen these Harvester defend our beloved Planet Crere during Attacks by our enemies?? If you have a good recommendation, please pm to your local Corsair Leadership.. If you have a bad review, please sent it as well.

What exactly are you hoping to find? You've had three pages of Corsairs saying "nah, haven't seen those guys in years". Are you waiting for one person to claim that they saw a Harvester yesterday, then triumphantly claim you've been active all along?

I really don't get what this thread is for. It's a bit like a trial by forum, but initiated by the target and with 100 percent more 'meh'.

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[Cosmos]

Right.

I was Harvester_21

I joined them in 4.84 when we had the epic talarca cruiser and when Scorn was still about.

Now I remember us being Allied with OPG,
when Asno and the other guy lead it.

Harvesters haven't been active atall to be honest,
I've seen 2 in the last 2 months.

I will likely remake my old character though as it was good RP.

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