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Offline Hielor
04-25-2011, 01:06 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-25-2011, 01:07 AM by Hielor.)
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' Wrote:1. Fact 1
First read this
http://discoveryfl.com/wiki/index.php/Civilian_ships
Then this
http://discoveryfl.com/wiki/index.php/Rheinland_ships
So Tigershark never meant to be Rheinland ship, its completely built as civilian ship, and Liberty Law only
forbid Rheinland ship, not civilian ship, so I assume Tigershark may enter Liberty freely
The Tiger Shark is RHEINLAND CIVILIAN. It says so right in the name, so it's pretty clearly intended to be a Rheinland (non-military) vessel.

The Tiger Shark is a Rheinland ship. It may not enter Liberty freely per the posted Liberty Laws.

Quote:2. Fact 2
Read this
http://discoveryfl.com/wiki/index.php/Tiger_Shark
Compare with this
http://discoveryfl.com/wiki/index.php/Behemoth
Tigershark was built by civilian not Rheinland, so it just like another civilian ship, no more no less.
Description of the Tiger Shark (bolding is mine):
Quote:The Tiger Shark is a unique vessel with its foundations in the bygone days of Rheinland's commercial might, designed as it was to serve the desires of the young, the rich and the reckless as a sporty racing vehicle. Those Sharks seeing modern production are engaged in more militaristic ventures, from escorting Republic convoys to serving as enforcement vehicles for off duty members of the Rheinland Military or Police looking to bring in bounty money by hunting down pirates and dissidents. While considered expensive to some, the Tiger Shark is a solid workhorse vessel capable of delivering plenty of punch to folks wishing to ruin a good day.
That description makes it pretty obvious that the vessel is Rheinland-specific.

Quote: If Eagle series and Arrow may roam around Liberty and so Tigershark should be permitted to enter Liberty
space freely
The Eagle series and the Arrow have no association with Rheinland. The Tiger Shark does. Big difference.

I don't know why you're trying to willfully ignore the "Rheinland" in the name and the multiple references to Rheinland in the description. It's a Rheinland ship. Get over it.
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Offline Jihadjoe
04-25-2011, 01:18 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-25-2011, 01:18 AM by Jihadjoe.)
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Everyone in the thread Wrote:Blah blah interpretation, blah blah out of date quotes from wiki entries, blah blah blah.

So people have been talking and talking and haven't actually got to the root of it. The quote from Liberty Law on the subject is the following.

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---------------------------- SECTION THREE : SHIPS AND WEAPONS --------------[color=#FFFF]-------------
II. Small ships.

The possession of some small ships is illegal in Liberty. Small ships are classified as gunboats or anything below such as freighters and fighters. This most commonly applies to Freelancers and Mercenaries. The list is as follows:

Rheinland ships (e.g. Wraith).


Pilots flying these must either exit the house of Liberty immediately by the route specified by the officer on duty or turn the ship in for research or destruction purposes at the nearest station able to provide a replacement ship. Any resistance will result in the ship being destroyed.

.....

IV. Transport ships.

The transport models of the Rheinland Train, Behemoth medium transport, Pirate Train and Pirate Transport are not permitted within the house of Liberty. The ALG mover and all other transport class ships are permitted.

There are no exceptions to this law.

Captains of transports of illegal make and model will be forced to drop any cargo they are carrying and exit the house of Liberty by the route specified by the officer on duty. An additional fine may be levied if previous infractions have occurred. Any resistance or evasion will result in the transport ship being destroyed.

Now... it says "Rheinland ships". Excellent. What is being refered to there are Rheinland ships used and built by the government/ Rheinland Military/Rheinland police. Wraith, Mjolnir, etc.

Not rheinland civilian ships (except the listed transports).

In short, you are allowed, by liberty law, to fly a tigershark in Liberty.

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Offline Jeremy Hunter
04-25-2011, 01:20 AM,
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Joe has spoken.

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Offline Hielor
04-25-2011, 02:39 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-25-2011, 02:45 AM by Hielor.)
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' Wrote:So people have been talking and talking and haven't actually got to the root of it. The quote from Liberty Law on the subject is the following.
Now... it says "Rheinland ships". Excellent. What is being refered to there are Rheinland ships used and built by the government/ Rheinland Military/Rheinland police. Wraith, Mjolnir, etc.

Not rheinland civilian ships (except the listed transports).

In short, you are allowed, by liberty law, to fly a tigershark in Liberty.

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Thanks, I was under the impression that it meant all Rheinland ships. I stand corrected.

Can we please get the laws clarified to "Rheinland military ships", then, to remove this ambiguity?
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Offline Jihadjoe
04-25-2011, 03:03 AM,
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' Wrote:Can we please get the laws clarified to "Rheinland military ships", then, to remove this ambiguity?

The entire Liberty Law document will be reviewed soon by the Republic of Liberty government, but I can adjust that in the meantime, yes. (although not now, it's 3am).

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