The Westfalen

[Ryummel]

You telling me the Bretonia-Rheinland conflict wasn't iRP stuff?

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[lw'nafh]

If I may, could someone please explain this trade in some more detail, and then why it was... Gone back on, I guess?

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[McNeo]

Well, first: the RM keeps winning every battle.
And second: it made absolutly no sense.

Also...balance.

And...Liberty already got enough cool stuff. I think other houses have a right to such things like Virginia, Ellesmere and an Alaska backyard as well.

RM keeps winning every battle now.
Well before westfalen fell, LN won every battle.

It made a lot of sense: Rheinland moves forces off to fight another war, Liberty moves in and does some damage/boards some things.

What does balance mean in this context?

Other houses do have a right to such things like Virginia and Ellesmere. Teschy did the Virginia system on behalf of the [LN], as it's our guard system and he was [LN] HC at the time. If [RM] had an individual willing and able to mod a really cool system, it would be done. Ellesmere is similarly belonging to the =LSF=, and you can ask them how it became a copy of the Badlands. As for Alaska... it's hardly our back yard with an Order Osiris in there, nor is it the dead-end system that it apparently was in vanilla.

Don't you have a shipyard surrounded by blue mines in Frankfurt?

[rwx]

If I may, could someone please explain this trade in some more detail, and then why it was... Gone back on, I guess?

1. Bowex smuggled in Rheinland
   
2. RFP: Fine!
   
3. Bowex: *discuss* *discuss*
   
4. RFP: Fine!
   
5. Bowex: *discuss* give MV permission! *discuss*
   
6. RFP: Not negotiable! More to pay now!
   
7. BAF: Embargo!
   
8. RM indies: keel all shrimps!
   
9. cannon strips one station from both houses
   
10. Q_Q
    
11. cannon gave unfair chance to get westfalen back.
    
12. people ooRPed
    
13. chance lost
    
14. 4.86 comes
    
15. Westfalen was captured back
    
16. people Q_Q again
    

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We make the rules, you follow them.

[lw'nafh]

1. Bowex smuggled in Rheinland
   
2. RFP: Fine!
   
3. Bowex: *discuss* *discuss*
   
4. RFP: Fine!
   
5. Bowex: *discuss* give MV permission! *discuss*
   
6. RFP: Not negotiable! More to pay now!
   
7. BAF: Embargo!
   
8. RM indies: keel all shrimps!
   
9. cannon strips one station from both houses
   
10. Q_Q
    
11. cannon gave unfair chance to get westfalen back.
    
12. people ooRPed
    
13. chance lost
    
14. 4.86 comes
    
15. Westfalen was captured back
    
16. people Q_Q again
    

Alright. That seems to...

... have explained it.

PS: I guess I have nothing to add then, I simply wanted to know more about it.

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[McNeo]

I believe official BAF and official RM got involved actually. If I remember correctly, when Alvin said that it was a "border skirmish", Lobster replied that it was more like a full war.

[rwx]

[...] "border skirmish" [...] full war [...]

Either completely or not at all.

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We make the rules, you follow them.

[McNeo]

When one escalates it, the other cannot respond without at least matching (or losing). So full war it is.
Or was until the admins took away a station from both sides.

[SpaceTime]

I'm wondering if the [LN] leadership is interested in an event with the [RM] in order to properly roleplay the return of Westfalen to Rheinland hands.

[McNeo]

I'd need to speak with the rest of LN HC for that, and they'd need to be online on skype for us to talk about it.

I can't see that being out of the realms of possibility though. I'd personally like to avoid an event with a predetermined outcome, however. It makes the event semantic if there's only one possible result.