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Is player level inRP or ooRP?

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Is player level inRP or ooRP?
Offline Ponge
12-04-2013, 10:21 PM,
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Hello.

The question is: can someone mention player level inRP in a demand, when the pirate and the victim are arguing about the cash amount demanded? Like:

- Give me 5 mill.
- I am poor, I work for a 500k credit/month salary. My company has a pirate insurance worth 3 mill, I cannot pay more than that, because I don't have.
- Poor? You are level 90, you have millions.

Is this acceptable, or considered metagaming?

(I'm not considering now the situation when a pirate sees that the victim is an lvl 45 freighter, so he won't ask for 10 mill from him/her.)

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Offline nOmnomnOm
12-04-2013, 10:27 PM,
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Hmm... i think its mainly OORP but you can translate it to something in RP.
Say his ship is of high quality, maybe hes well known...etc

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Offline Highland Laddie
12-04-2013, 10:29 PM,
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Sounds like metagaming...or maybe just non-sensical RP. Why would skill levels exist inRP?

I see the skill level as an OORP tool you use to evaluate how you can interact with a player. You wouldn't go around inRP broadcasting how skilled/unskilled you are as a transport in areas where pirates operate. That's just dumb.
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Offline nOmnomnOm
12-04-2013, 10:32 PM,
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Then again if you see a simple trader that is level 90 and says hes poor then there is something wrong here....

actually hes lying. Blow him up.

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Offline Thyrzul
12-04-2013, 10:43 PM,
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(12-04-2013, 10:32 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: Then again if you see a simple trader that is level 90 and says hes poor then there is something wrong here....

actually hes lying. Blow him up.

If you roleplay that your character doesn't believe him and base it on that he is lvl90, then that would be metagaming, as you would roleplay the actions of your character based on ooRP knowledge.

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Offline nOmnomnOm
12-04-2013, 10:45 PM,
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(12-04-2013, 10:43 PM)Thyrzul Wrote:
(12-04-2013, 10:32 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: Then again if you see a simple trader that is level 90 and says hes poor then there is something wrong here....

actually hes lying. Blow him up.

If you roleplay that your character doesn't believe him and base it on that he is lvl90, then that would be metagaming, as you would roleplay the actions of your character based on ooRP knowledge.

in not saying that at all.
im saying its one of the factors that you take in when you RP it.
Look at the armor, look at the cargo, look how he treats you.

he doesnt comply, fine. hes dead

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Offline Remnant
12-04-2013, 11:33 PM,
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In short, the rank means nothing ingame. Characters cannot see a 'rank' of another. They have no way of knowing.

Acting upon ANY sort of activity just because of the rank, is indeed metagaming besides perhaps the below 30 server rule (unless thats old stuff, haven't checked up lately)
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Offline Luke.
12-04-2013, 11:34 PM,
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Lets face it though, who doesn't use the playerlist to find activity. You can use level to weigh up how much you're going to charge them but that doesn't have to be apparent InRP at all.

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Offline Wraga
12-04-2013, 11:48 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-04-2013, 11:48 PM by Wraga.)
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Just delete players level/location from the chat box and problem solved.

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Offline Thargoid
12-05-2013, 12:05 AM,
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No, player level is obviously out of RP.

He's just talking ooRP in local.

Just make a demand and stick to it, or lower it slightly, if he won't pay, kindly take him down to 10% hull and see if he'll reconsider.

If I see a trader in a 5K full of ore, and he uses the old "I have no money, I just bought this ship"... if he's lying, he dies, if he's telling the truth, he dies, if they are stupid enough to haul ore with no money to pay pirates, then they deserve to be punished.

I know you're the probably the trader here, so I don't know why I'm talking to the pirate.
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