Requesting permission to use technology when there appears to be no "official" Player Faction

[Seylah]

I want to fly one of the new Unioner ships in 4.86, so lately I've been trying to contact/make relations with Unioner players but I've only ever seen one of them online (he logged shortly after, so I didn't get to speak with him).

I want to use the Unioner ship with a generic Pirate ID. My question is how do you go about getting permission to fly someone else's ship with a generic ID when there appears to be no official player faction? I've searched the forums and I have yet to find a Unioner category.

I am willing to earn permission to fly one of the new Unioner fighters in game, my problem is that I've never seen any of these players in-game. I am willing to work and earn this technology in-game.

What does one do in this situation?



EDIT: Nevermind, I found what I was looking for. Apparently the LWB and the Unioners use the same forum and it is listed under "AGS." I would still like an answer to this question, though.

[Azan27]

Short answer is that you can't. If there isn't an official player faction, that tech is locked down.

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Let it burn.

[Veygaar]

Erm... I believe it is considered green cell actually?

Lemme go find green text...

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[Hielor]

Erm... I believe it is considered green cell actually?

Lemme go find green text...

The green text you're looking for is in the thread about the Molly faction disbanding.

It's red cell.

Edit: Here you go. It's not actually green text, but it's from an admin. Emphasis mine.

Molly stuff is controlled by the Mollies. Of which there are none at present. They've clearly allowed themselves to be decommissioned. That is to say, their bases haven't been abandoned and left open to looters from across known space. It's just that they don't exist, officially. They have no voice. No leaders. No guiding light.

However, they haven't gone away, you know.
Their stuff is not civilian. Trefoils are not going to be seen in department stores at knockdown prices.

In the absence of a faction, obviously all manner of people will be inconvenienced, so I imagine it's only a matter of time before someone makes a Molly faction to handle this important job. It's so important that clearly all other Molly priorities will have to be forgotten about.

In short, the requirements are the same - ie faction permission. In the absence of a faction, our thinking on who controls technology may need to be reconsidered. For now, consider those boxes red.

This could change. But possibly won't.

Also: anyone with proof of people cheating to keep activity up should post evidence or stop with the vague accusations. It's starting to sound paranoid.

[Veygaar]

I believe that was a one case scenario, due to the fact that a majority of the tech also belonged to the LR.

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[Hielor]

I believe that was a one case scenario, due to the fact that a majority of the tech also belonged to the LR.

I believe that there is no evidence whatsoever to back up your claim. Nothing in Athenian's statement implies that this is a special case. He also backed up the claim in another thread, in a general sense, using Mollies as an example.

If no official faction represents the NPC group who possesses the technology it may be used in the same fashion as the previous system: Namely by virtue of self governance and forum established fiction.

This is not at odds with my statement.

If a faction vanishes, its previous agreements (forum established fiction) and cell status (self governance) stand. That at least is what I think DL meant.

So there are no Mollies, but their tech is white for you. So any agreements they made before remain. New agreements are impossible until the faction slot is filled. Call it a period of restructuring if you want. I imagine it would be hard to re-establish a faction if people could access its technology on other IDs without asking anyone.

So, Mollies
Check previous agreements made by the faction, they will stand
Ships (the ones explicitly stated as being LR/Molly) - LR for now
Guns (the ones explicitly called Molly) - red cell for everyone unless you are a Molly.

The statement he made about the Mollies' tech can be equally applied to any faction's tech and there is no reason to assume otherwise.